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    Box
    last edited by 18 Jan 2016, 13:57

    Another quick late night doodle just for fun and to help wrap my head around quads.
    It's very quick and simple but everything is so easy to manipulate with the combination of QFT, VT and SubD.


    Plane.gif


    SubD Plane Proxy.skp

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      olishea
      last edited by 18 Jan 2016, 16:00

      nice cotty loving this thread....I'll get involved soon πŸ˜„

      oli

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        cotty
        last edited by 18 Jan 2016, 18:36

        @Box: nice plane!
        @ olishea: be careful, it's contagious πŸ˜‰

        my SketchUp gallery

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          pilou
          last edited by 18 Jan 2016, 18:52

          Maybe you can also use the very cool Free ManifoldLab (Wings3D inside) for some cool things!

          trig.jpg


          cone_v6.zip


          trig.zip

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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            cotty
            last edited by 18 Jan 2016, 19:18

            Find the difference πŸ˜‰

            SCF_Cotty_subd25.png


            SCF_Cotty_subd25.skp

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              driven
              last edited by 18 Jan 2016, 22:44

              got it, two are blue and two are red...

              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                panixia
                last edited by 18 Jan 2016, 23:43

                not sure what you guys are trying to achieve with this kind of experiments?
                what's the point with all those triangles? 😐
                is just for the sake of testing the algorithm itself or is such topology intended for something?
                maybe 3dprinting ❓

                here is a children slide done with good old quads πŸ˜„

                slide.JPG
                slide 1.JPG
                slide 2.JPG


                children_slide_purged.skp

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                  ntxdave
                  last edited by 18 Jan 2016, 23:53

                  Going to show my ignorance πŸ˜•

                  How do you go about drawing things like this with quads? Is there some place I can go to learn the process or do you just draw everything with straight lines?

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                    panixia
                    last edited by 18 Jan 2016, 23:56

                    dave i made a pretty extensive tutorial a few days ago..didn't you spot it?

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                      ntxdave
                      last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 00:40

                      @panixia said:

                      dave i made a pretty extensive tutorial a few days ago..didn't you spot it?
                      j

                      Oops...I think I have it book marked on a different computer ( if that is the one about the piece of furniture). My apology. I promise I will watch it. L have been going thru some Blender tuts. I want to learn how to draw things better.

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                        panixia
                        last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 01:02

                        actually it's also bookmarked on the sub-d website video.. πŸ˜‰

                        not sure if i should create a topic in the main tutorial section of the forum or in sub-d subforum.. ❓

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                          Box
                          last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 05:02

                          Panixia, having stumbled through QFT and SubD by trial and error for a few days I have now watched your tutorial. I think I chose the right time to watch it as it answered all those nagging little questions about how to use the various tools correctly. I now see I was making hard work for myself with quads.
                          I think it could be a bit overwhelming if you were trying the tools for the first time.
                          Thankyou for that, an Excellent bit of work, although I almost stopped watching it in the first few minutes because of the computer voice. I'm very glad I persevered.

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                            Box
                            last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 12:52

                            A little engineering porn now that I have my head around quads a little better.
                            It makes a very nice one piece printable solid.
                            I need to make more effort with my mounting holes, their topology is a little ragged as they were an afterthought and I got lazy by then.


                            Manifold.JPG


                            Throat.JPG


                            Flange.JPG


                            Manifold manifold.png


                            Test Manifold.skp

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                              pbacot
                              last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 14:46

                              Now that's a nice manifold! But I was dismayed by the mounting holes too (just kidding). Good work and example!

                              MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                panixia
                                last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 14:49

                                @box said:

                                I almost stopped watching it in the first few minutes because of the computer voice. I'm very glad I persevered.

                                πŸ’š LOL! i know.. that f*%#in' robot voice is so annoyng that actually you should have to be glad, first of all, I MYSELF persevered in doing it.. altough i was actually helped in that phase from a friend who works in education (actually it works at engeneering college and they use all of this nice stuff for teaching/learning πŸ€“ )
                                that said.. i'm pretty much sure you would be even a lot more pissed by my terrible spoken english, wich is even worse than my written one lol πŸ’š πŸ’š πŸ’š
                                i have to say (being this my first ever tutorial) that i way understimated how difficult is to model something without jumping/redoing steps, without never undoing or drafting along the way and trying to act in a smooth way.. if you ask me to try to speak english on the top of all this stress... that would drive me completely crazy AAAHRGG 😑

                                try to do something similar while speaking italian and let me know πŸ˜›

                                @box said:

                                I need to make more effort with my mounting holes, their topology is a little ragged as they were an afterthought and I got lazy by then

                                if you ask me, the topology of that holes is not wrong at all. maybe (unless you don't intentionally need to hard-pinch them for some reason) you can improve a bit the flow around that x-poles marked in red.

                                that's not mandatory, but if you dig into topology furthermore, you will learn that, when possible, you should try to move poles around, splitting the x pole in a e-pole (blue) and a n-pole (green) as you properly did at the bottom were you cut those nice loop flowing between holes..

                                i know all of this can be a little confusing, but poles are very important to achieve proper topology and control the flow and the pinching of the meshes.
                                maybe i can try to do some example model about this, but unfortunately i have no time to do this right now..

                                try and search about "poles" there are tons of good tutorials about poles (mosto of them from blender community)

                                ❗ notice that quadface tools provide a useful option to hilight poles in your topology. you should pickthe quadface select tool and activte the poles from right-click menu πŸ‘

                                poles.JPG

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                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 15:39

                                  Wonderful manifold Box!

                                  Mind if I share the images? (I'd love to show the coarse mesh and the final subdivided mesh.) I'll add a link-back to whatever you want as attribution.

                                  For the holes - the subdivided mesh doesn't seem to suffer artefacts in this case, you may not want to bother. But if you want to explore further you might want to try something like this:

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Topology Guides

                                  Adding holes to a flat surface

                                  favicon

                                  Tumblr (topology-guides.tumblr.com)

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                    Box
                                    last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 15:57

                                    Feel free Thomthom to do with them as you wish. These things are all just practice doodles when I've got a few minutes.

                                    Panixia, I understand the language problems, I've worked all over the world and and the varieties of English I've learnt to understand is boundless.

                                    Thanks both of you for the further learning links. I'll get there when I have time.

                                    And a last doodle before bed. I know I know another bell, but I like them.


                                    bell2.png

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 16:06

                                      For the robot voice, a little trick is put the Youtube Video Speed * 2 ! πŸ˜‰

                                      Cool objects! πŸ‘

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                        cotty
                                        last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 17:22

                                        @panixia said:

                                        not sure what you guys are trying to achieve with this kind of experiments?

                                        It's fun. It's a great way to get a feeling for "good" and "bad" proxies.

                                        @panixia said:

                                        what's the point with all those triangles?

                                        Look closely, not one triangle in there...

                                        my SketchUp gallery

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                                          panixia
                                          last edited by 19 Jan 2016, 17:33

                                          @cotty said:

                                          It's fun. It's a great way to get a feeling for "good" and "bad" proxies.

                                          ah, ok so "stress test".. i suspected that was intendend to build some convoluted topology like this guy does 😍
                                          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b6KJOb-r16w

                                          @cotty said:

                                          Look closely, not one triangle in there...

                                          ❗ i meant the control meshes, not the smoothed ones..

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