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    • thomthomT Offline
      thomthom
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      @box said:

      I've never ventured much into the realm of furniture making so as a first quick doodle I'm impressed by the ease with which I came up with something almost recognisable in less than 30 minutes fiddling. No doubt I could render it and make it look flash, but I love the raw topology.

      It makes me very happy to hear that. My biggest concern with SUbD was how it relied on quad topology and I wasn't sure how well that requirement of workflow would be received in the realms on SketchUp.

      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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      • thomthomT Offline
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        @hornoxx said:

        Hi - to get any first experiences I did a little testing, mainly based on Cottys SubD_04 model above. I was interested on how an existing texture behaves to the SubD process - it's amazing how confidently and fast that works ...

        Thanks for sharing that model - it's a nice study of geometry and texture.
        At the moment SUbD use simple linear interpolation for the textures. However, I am working with integrating OpenSubdiv into a future release. That will give more options for textures;

        2016-01-17_10h24_41.png
        Source: http://graphics.pixar.com/library/Geri/paper.pdf

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        • pilouP Offline
          pilou
          last edited by

          @Thomthom

          In fact all works fine! πŸ’š
          It was half my fault! I was too confident of the first reading text! πŸ˜„

          huhu.jpg

          Frenchy Pilou
          Is beautiful that please without concept!
          My Little site :)

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          • cottyC Offline
            cotty
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            SCF_Cotty_subd24.png

            my SketchUp gallery

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              Tron! πŸ˜‰

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • pilouP Offline
                pilou
                last edited by

                Glitch ?

                SUbD finds internal faces and can't be apply! (Who don't exist)
                (Artisan subdivides πŸ˜‰

                glitch.jpg


                subd_glitch_v6.skp

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  SUbD Catmull-Clark algorithm require the mesh to be a manifold or a surface without any forks. That model you have there have an edge with four faces connected - the algorithm cannot handle that. In another modelling package where the entities didn't merge you'd get away with it as you could have overlapping edges. But since SU merges entities at all times these types of scenarios becomes a challenge.

                  OpenSubdiv 3 supports internal faces - maybe it would be able to cope with this as well - I'm not sure. But that's still down the line in the road map.


                  2016-01-17_17h02_31.png

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                  • BoxB Offline
                    Box
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                    It would be handy if either SubD or Solid inspector could highlight these annoying joints. They can be a real headache to find manually sometimes.

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Solid Inspector used to complain about these - but because they where considered false positives in many cases it was changed to ignore them.

                      I do have ideas for an analytical tool for QFT that will visualize quads from triangles and ngons. Maybe it can lightlight forks as well...

                      By the way, I tried the model on an experimental build I have where I try to wire up OpenSubdiv and it seemed to be able to cope with it:

                      OpenSubdiv experimental version

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        THx for the explanation and the effort! 😎

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • panixiaP Offline
                          panixia
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                          @thomthom said:

                          I do have ideas for an analytical tool for QFT that will visualize quads from triangles and ngons.

                          😍 please please auto-detect sausages ad donuts 😍

                          somewere i should have a "wishlist" i wrote with some examples included too..

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                          • BoxB Offline
                            Box
                            last edited by

                            Another quick late night doodle just for fun and to help wrap my head around quads.
                            It's very quick and simple but everything is so easy to manipulate with the combination of QFT, VT and SubD.


                            Plane.gif


                            SubD Plane Proxy.skp

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                            • olisheaO Offline
                              olishea
                              last edited by

                              nice cotty loving this thread....I'll get involved soon πŸ˜„

                              oli

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                              • cottyC Offline
                                cotty
                                last edited by

                                @Box: nice plane!
                                @ olishea: be careful, it's contagious πŸ˜‰

                                my SketchUp gallery

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  Maybe you can also use the very cool Free ManifoldLab (Wings3D inside) for some cool things!

                                  trig.jpg


                                  cone_v6.zip


                                  trig.zip

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                  • cottyC Offline
                                    cotty
                                    last edited by

                                    Find the difference πŸ˜‰

                                    SCF_Cotty_subd25.png


                                    SCF_Cotty_subd25.skp

                                    my SketchUp gallery

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                                    • D Offline
                                      driven
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                                      got it, two are blue and two are red...

                                      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                      • panixiaP Offline
                                        panixia
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                                        not sure what you guys are trying to achieve with this kind of experiments?
                                        what's the point with all those triangles? 😐
                                        is just for the sake of testing the algorithm itself or is such topology intended for something?
                                        maybe 3dprinting ❓

                                        here is a children slide done with good old quads πŸ˜„

                                        slide.JPG
                                        slide 1.JPG
                                        slide 2.JPG


                                        children_slide_purged.skp

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                                        • ntxdaveN Offline
                                          ntxdave
                                          last edited by

                                          Going to show my ignorance πŸ˜•

                                          How do you go about drawing things like this with quads? Is there some place I can go to learn the process or do you just draw everything with straight lines?

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                                          • panixiaP Offline
                                            panixia
                                            last edited by

                                            dave i made a pretty extensive tutorial a few days ago..didn't you spot it?

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