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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
      last edited by

      Glitch ?

      SUbD finds internal faces and can't be apply! (Who don't exist)
      (Artisan subdivides πŸ˜‰

      glitch.jpg


      subd_glitch_v6.skp

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      • thomthomT Offline
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        SUbD Catmull-Clark algorithm require the mesh to be a manifold or a surface without any forks. That model you have there have an edge with four faces connected - the algorithm cannot handle that. In another modelling package where the entities didn't merge you'd get away with it as you could have overlapping edges. But since SU merges entities at all times these types of scenarios becomes a challenge.

        OpenSubdiv 3 supports internal faces - maybe it would be able to cope with this as well - I'm not sure. But that's still down the line in the road map.


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        • BoxB Offline
          Box
          last edited by

          It would be handy if either SubD or Solid inspector could highlight these annoying joints. They can be a real headache to find manually sometimes.

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
            last edited by

            Solid Inspector used to complain about these - but because they where considered false positives in many cases it was changed to ignore them.

            I do have ideas for an analytical tool for QFT that will visualize quads from triangles and ngons. Maybe it can lightlight forks as well...

            By the way, I tried the model on an experimental build I have where I try to wire up OpenSubdiv and it seemed to be able to cope with it:

            OpenSubdiv experimental version

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            • pilouP Offline
              pilou
              last edited by

              THx for the explanation and the effort! 😎

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              • panixiaP Offline
                panixia
                last edited by

                @thomthom said:

                I do have ideas for an analytical tool for QFT that will visualize quads from triangles and ngons.

                😍 please please auto-detect sausages ad donuts 😍

                somewere i should have a "wishlist" i wrote with some examples included too..

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                • BoxB Offline
                  Box
                  last edited by

                  Another quick late night doodle just for fun and to help wrap my head around quads.
                  It's very quick and simple but everything is so easy to manipulate with the combination of QFT, VT and SubD.


                  Plane.gif


                  SubD Plane Proxy.skp

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                  • olisheaO Offline
                    olishea
                    last edited by

                    nice cotty loving this thread....I'll get involved soon πŸ˜„

                    oli

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                    • cottyC Offline
                      cotty
                      last edited by

                      @Box: nice plane!
                      @ olishea: be careful, it's contagious πŸ˜‰

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Maybe you can also use the very cool Free ManifoldLab (Wings3D inside) for some cool things!

                        trig.jpg


                        cone_v6.zip


                        trig.zip

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                        • cottyC Offline
                          cotty
                          last edited by

                          Find the difference πŸ˜‰

                          SCF_Cotty_subd25.png


                          SCF_Cotty_subd25.skp

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                          • D Offline
                            driven
                            last edited by

                            got it, two are blue and two are red...

                            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                            • panixiaP Offline
                              panixia
                              last edited by

                              not sure what you guys are trying to achieve with this kind of experiments?
                              what's the point with all those triangles? 😐
                              is just for the sake of testing the algorithm itself or is such topology intended for something?
                              maybe 3dprinting ❓

                              here is a children slide done with good old quads πŸ˜„

                              slide.JPG
                              slide 1.JPG
                              slide 2.JPG


                              children_slide_purged.skp

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                              • ntxdaveN Offline
                                ntxdave
                                last edited by

                                Going to show my ignorance πŸ˜•

                                How do you go about drawing things like this with quads? Is there some place I can go to learn the process or do you just draw everything with straight lines?

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                                • panixiaP Offline
                                  panixia
                                  last edited by

                                  dave i made a pretty extensive tutorial a few days ago..didn't you spot it?

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                                  • ntxdaveN Offline
                                    ntxdave
                                    last edited by

                                    @panixia said:

                                    dave i made a pretty extensive tutorial a few days ago..didn't you spot it?
                                    j

                                    Oops...I think I have it book marked on a different computer ( if that is the one about the piece of furniture). My apology. I promise I will watch it. L have been going thru some Blender tuts. I want to learn how to draw things better.

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                                    • panixiaP Offline
                                      panixia
                                      last edited by

                                      actually it's also bookmarked on the sub-d website video.. πŸ˜‰

                                      not sure if i should create a topic in the main tutorial section of the forum or in sub-d subforum.. ❓

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                                      • BoxB Offline
                                        Box
                                        last edited by

                                        Panixia, having stumbled through QFT and SubD by trial and error for a few days I have now watched your tutorial. I think I chose the right time to watch it as it answered all those nagging little questions about how to use the various tools correctly. I now see I was making hard work for myself with quads.
                                        I think it could be a bit overwhelming if you were trying the tools for the first time.
                                        Thankyou for that, an Excellent bit of work, although I almost stopped watching it in the first few minutes because of the computer voice. I'm very glad I persevered.

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                                        • BoxB Offline
                                          Box
                                          last edited by

                                          A little engineering porn now that I have my head around quads a little better.
                                          It makes a very nice one piece printable solid.
                                          I need to make more effort with my mounting holes, their topology is a little ragged as they were an afterthought and I got lazy by then.


                                          Manifold.JPG


                                          Throat.JPG


                                          Flange.JPG


                                          Manifold manifold.png


                                          Test Manifold.skp

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                                          • pbacotP Offline
                                            pbacot
                                            last edited by

                                            Now that's a nice manifold! But I was dismayed by the mounting holes too (just kidding). Good work and example!

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