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    Box
    last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 09:41

    I found a little problem with it.
    If you scale to 0 as a way of straightening an edge it freezes and won't update the surface. If you get out of edit mode and go back in an move a point it will revert to the unscaled skin.

    http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s296/storeben/SU/0Scale.gif

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      Rich O Brien Moderator
      last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 09:53

      @box

      I'm not seeing that occur for me

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        Box
        last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 10:07

        IT doesn't happen on all axis, I have yet to determine exactly when it happens, but I will pin it down.

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          Box
          last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 10:19

          Try this and see if it is just me.
          The patch is drawn up the blue along the red. Second patch added, joint moved up on the blue. Select the two edges(3 points) on the red and scale to 0.
          Please excuse the sloppy movements, I find it's very hard to maneuver on a trackpad.

          http://i155.photobucket.com/albums/s296/storeben/SU/Red.gif

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            thomthom
            last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 10:59

            @pilou said:

            @unknownuser said:

            Do you get any errors in the Ruby Console?

            See my previous posts from here

            Messages were the same that the restant on my post linked πŸ˜‰

            So for have no message errors I disconnect plugins after plugins.

            Ah, there's something suspicious:

            @unknownuser said:

            Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method parent' for nil:NilClass> C:/Users/Pilou/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins/ChrisP_PutsCompOnFace.rb:21:in definition'

            Looks like this extension has injected itself into the system somewhere. Maybe it modified .definition. What happens if you remove that extension?
            (Also, where did you get that extension?)

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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              thomthom
              last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 11:02

              @cadfather said:

              ok, in my case progressbar.rb is the culprit

              now it's smartdrop

              it changes.. πŸ˜†

              Ah yes, progressbar.rb is also known. But wasn't that updated?

              Is smart drop also conflicting?

              Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
              List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                thomthom
                last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 11:07

                @unclex said:

                @thomthom said:

                Re: [Plugin][WIP][OpenSource] Bezier Surface

                Postby thomthom Β» Mon Nov 24, 2014 4:18 am

                unclex wrote:It's just always updating...
                
                Like the GIF
                8.gif
                
                
                
                Cannot Click or DoubleClick
                
                and when SU opening, nothing prompt
                

                Any errors in the Ruby Console?
                What SketchUp version?

                Now I Know what happened
                Smartdrop clash with TTlib2
                something named "definition"

                so I change "definition" to "a4sddefinition" @ smartdrop.rb
                and it works

                [attachment=0:nay6raup]<!-- ia0 -->Smartdrop.rb<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:nay6raup]

                Right, so this is what is happening:

                Smartdrop is modifying the SketchUp API classes - which is a Bad Thing (TM)

                
                class Sketchup;;Group 
                  def definition
                    return(entities[0].parent) 
                  end 
                end
                
                

                This method is bugged - it will fail when the group is empty because it tries to get the parent of the first entity in the entities collection. entities.parent would have worked though - so close. (But not perfectly in all older SU versions as there was a SU bug. There is a workaround for that, but that is not implemented here.)
                This is a good example of why modifying classes and modules that doesn't belong to your own extension is a bad thing. Before SU2015 it was adding a method that was not there, but as of SU2015 we added .definition for Group - meaning now it's also overriding the Ruby API.

                Was this the latest version of smart drop - or is there a new one that might have fixed this?

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  thomthom
                  last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 11:09

                  @jeff hammond said:

                  .

                  here's a simple introductory example.. maybe something a lot of people can use..
                  seamless background for rendering

                  Wow, tutorials already! 😲 I'm really baffled that people find it usable in any sense - considering it's so much that's missing.

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    thomthom
                    last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 11:11

                    @box said:

                    I found a little problem with it.
                    If you scale to 0 as a way of straightening an edge it freezes and won't update the surface. If you get out of edit mode and go back in an move a point it will revert to the unscaled skin.

                    Yea, I'm not surprised there are errors - I actually would have expected many more reports.
                    I'm going to guess that there are errors in the Ruby Console when your issue occur?

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                      Box
                      last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 11:14

                      Yes indeed, was just looking at that. a long error I think repeated.
                      Error: #<ArgumentError: Cannot convert argument to Sketchup::Point3d> C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/bezier_patch_quad.rb:528:inintersect_line_line'
                      C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/bezier_patch_quad.rb:528:in interpolate_points' C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/bezier_patch_quad.rb:553:in interpolate_interior'
                      C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/bezier_patch_quad.rb:262:in refresh_interior' C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/bezier_surface.rb:1046:in block in refresh_automatic_patches'
                      C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/bezier_surface.rb:1044:in each' C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/bezier_surface.rb:1044:in refresh_automatic_patches'
                      C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/bezier_surface.rb:1026:in update_after_transformation' C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/bezier_surface.rb:427:in transform_entities'
                      C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/operator_gizmo.rb:105:in block in init_gizmo' C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_Lib2/gizmo_manipulator.rb:65:in call'
                      C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_Lib2/gizmo_manipulator.rb:65:in block (2 levels) in initialize' C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_Lib2/gizmo_manipulator.rb:319:in call'
                      C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_Lib2/gizmo_manipulator.rb:319:in block in initialize' C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_Lib2/gizmo_manipulator.rb:1504:in call'
                      C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_Lib2/gizmo_manipulator.rb:1504:in onMouseMove' C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_Lib2/gizmo_manipulator.rb:473:in onMouseMove'
                      C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/TT_Lib2/gizmo_manipulator.rb:156:in onMouseMove' C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/operator_gizmo.rb:70:in onMouseMove'
                      C:/Users/Ben/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2015/SketchUp/Plugins/tt_bezier_surface/operator_manager.rb:56:in trigger_event'

                      It appears this keeps repeating, but I could be wrong.

                      Edit: on a second look it doesn't repeat, but is very very long.

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                        panixia
                        last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 11:19

                        @thomthom said:

                        I'm really baffled that people find it usable in any sense - considering it's so much that's missing.

                        i bet what people could do out of Sub-d "as it is" would be even more surprising πŸ˜›

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                          Pixero
                          last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 11:53

                          I have one request that would make it much more useful.
                          Add support for editing without messing up UVs like your vertex tools works.

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 14:48

                            @box said:

                            Yes indeed, was just looking at that. a long error I think repeated.

                            Edit: on a second look it doesn't repeat, but is very very long.

                            Thanks for posting the error message.

                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              pbacot
                              last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 18:06

                              So are there instructions or tutorials for this?

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                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 18:07

                                @thomthom said:

                                @jeff hammond said:

                                .

                                here's a simple introductory example.. maybe something a lot of people can use..
                                seamless background for rendering

                                Wow, tutorials already! 😲 I'm really baffled that people find it usable in any sense - considering it's so much that's missing.

                                heh.. i was just thinking it was a way to show the scale/rotate/move options available via the gizmo.. also a way to point out that using a radius isn't the best way to build a psyche wall..

                                tangent blends aren't the smoothest since they abruptly change from one direction to another and you will see a more defined line in light/reflections.. you want something that eases into the transition.. bezier surface provides this type of blend (a little more control/ snapping of control points is necessary but as is, it still gets the job done.)

                                here's a tangent fillet vs one with G3 continuity for example:

                                radius fillet on the left -- G3 on the right

                                dotdotdot

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 18:40

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Error: #<NoMethodError: undefined method `parent' for nil:NilClass>
                                  C:/Users/Pilou/AppData/Roaming/SketchUp/SketchUp 2014/SketchUp/Plugins/ChrisP_PutsCompOnFace.rb:21:in `definition'
                                  

                                  Looks like this extension has injected itself into the system somewhere. Maybe it modified .definition. What happens if you remove that extension?
                                  (Also, where did you get that extension?)

                                  Removed and all works fine πŸ˜‰
                                  This extension is from a French developper πŸ˜‰ Cplassais
                                  Look his other plug at PluginStore ColorEdge
                                  he made also Explode View (with me πŸ˜‰
                                  And numerous other ones it site

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 20:56

                                    @pbacot said:

                                    So are there instructions or tutorials for this?

                                    Not much. I basically released this because I haven't been keeping up development lately. So I had thought it was more of a preview and perhaps invite some developers to perhaps contribute in an open source project. However it appear to have drawn a bit more attention than I expected.
                                    There are a couple of videos, though I'm not sure if they are visible in the PluginStore - at least I could not find where they ended up. Though they should be linked in this thread, and on the EW description page. You'll also find them from my YouTube channel.

                                    But they really are just teasers and not how to.

                                    I'm also about to go on vacation for a week so I'll be slow to respond and won't be able to produce anything soon. (I'm in short of time in general.) Meanwhile I'd encourage people to share their experiences on the forum.

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 20:57

                                      @pilou said:

                                      Look his other plug at PluginStore ColorEdge
                                      he made also Explode View (with me πŸ˜‰
                                      And numerous other ones it site

                                      But the one that cause problems, that not publicly available? I was hoping to be able to inspect it and then see if I could reach out to the author and ask that he can release a new version that doesn't conflict.

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 21:06

                                        @jeff hammond said:

                                        tangent blends aren't the smoothest since they abruptly change from one direction to another and you will see a more defined line in light/reflections.. you want something that eases into the transition.. bezier surface provides this type of blend (a little more control/ snapping of control points is necessary but as is, it still gets the job done.)

                                        Got a wireframe of that mesh? I'm curious to what makes out the difference. (I'm wondering if my SUbD tool might address that.)

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                          pilou
                                          last edited by 24 Nov 2014, 21:24

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          But the one that cause problems, that not publicly available? I was hoping to be able to inspect it and then see if I could reach out to the author and ask that he can release a new version that doesn't conflict.

                                          Components on face by CPlassais

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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