SketchUp 2015 is 64bit

numerobis · 14 Nov 2014, 09:47

@baz said:

BTW I am getting random Windows explorer freezes when clicking on a Su file. And still no thumbs:(

Yes, me too. Not only freezes but complete crashes of the windows explorer. Sometimes when i enter the folder and sometimes when i right click on a file (list view, Win 7 x64). I must be related to the preview. I can fix it disabling the preview window.

@archheni said:

High Poly count was never the only thing which caused SU to bog down in the past..maybe you should try to have more component instances (50k-60k) in let's say 10K-20K groups. More diverse geometry would certainly also help. I'm pretty sure you will see a difference

If you look at the file summary you'll see that there are more than 120000 instances in this model.
And i can say from a recent project that there is absolutely no difference. I noticed the model was becoming massively slower (in v8) after i added several thousand nested (hole cutting) instances (~67000) of one component. Total entity summary is now ~70000 instances of 55 component definitions and ~1500 groups). I tried this file in v2015 and i can say that it performs the same.

gt5 · 18 Nov 2014, 04:01

@rich o brien said:

Someone better start the 2016 wish list pronto

My wish would be the same that I have every year: a true Mac version instead of something that just happens to run on a mac.

Frederik · 18 Nov 2014, 05:41

@gt5 said:

a true Mac version instead of something that just happens to run on a mac.

I've seen this in the past, but my knowledge about Mac is very limited, so please bare with me...
What do you mean about a 'true Mac version'...?
(I've never seen anybody asking for a 'true Win version')
What's the difference between a true Mac version and the one you have now...?
As far as I understand, it runs natively on the Mac OS, hence it's not just a clone...
From various screen grabs, I've seen that it looks very Mac OS to me, so please explain what the difference is...

Please also enlighten me about what advantages a "real" Mac version would have above the current Mac version...

jeff hammond · 18 Nov 2014, 07:33

hmm.. the mac version is a true mac app i thought.

all the UI elements are native OS X panels/sheets/toolbars/buttons/dialogs/slidersetc.. (like, when you update your OS, sketchup's look changes accordingly).. it's not just a bad port.

some of the elements are outdated and/or not used very often such as the panels used for things in the Window menu (entity info, soften/smooth, shadows, etc) and i really wish the UI would get an overhaul/modernized but still, the way it is now, i don't think it 'just happens to run on mac'

a 'true' 2015 mac app would probably have the following: full screen mode, trackpad/ magic mouse support, versioning/ osx autosave, better retina support, ~~and 64 bit~~..

and probably integrate some of the newer UI elements and/or steal (borrow) design cues from apple applications such as Final Cut Pro X and iWork..

anyway, i don't think sketchup is crippled at all on mac compared to windows and the suTeam seems to have accomplished giving all users of either platform an equal experience.. (well, some of the stuff is better on mac so nyah .. but then again, i think the material browser may be better on windows)

Aerilius · 18 Nov 2014, 10:33

@gt5 said:

…a true Mac version…

To complement Jeffs reply, I don't know what you think of for SketchUp to be a true OS X application. Any OS X-specific plus features – though nice to have – can fire backwards like the materials browser and deepen the trench between both versions. It's probably not advantageous for development progress if they have to maintain two more and more differing code bases. Whom can we recommend which version if we have to ask back: "Do you want to import pdfs or do you want a color chooser? Do you want to edit multiple documents or dock toolbars? Do you want to have high-dpi support or thumbnails?"
Preferably these differences would be levelled out.

slbaumgartner · 18 Nov 2014, 13:18

I'll join the pile. Please be more specific about what you mean by "a true Mac version". I'm a Mac user, and I don't think SketchUp feels or behaves like a Windows port rather than like other Mac apps. OK, maybe the UI wasn't designed by Jony Ivy, but in my mind that might make it less trendy but no less a Mac app...

pbacot · 18 Nov 2014, 16:16

While I don't think it is as bad as a Mac port of Windows program, the interface is not as good as the Windows version (figure that one out). There certainly is a Mac legacy with SketchUp. However each version comes out and the interface is not fixed with obvious problems. Toolbars and palettes is one. AA and poor Retina support is another.

On the other hand we can edit multiple files at once (if they aren't too large) and we can print pdf easily.

jpmorla · 20 Nov 2014, 01:34

So exciting to see a 64-bit version of SU out! To install the 64-bit version, do I have to unistall the 32 bit version? Can I have both installed at the same time? Earlier posts on this thread suggest so but on the SU download page it says you must remove the 32-bit version before installing the 64-bit version. Any feedback on this please?

Jim · 20 Nov 2014, 07:49

You can install and use differing versions of SketchUp on a computer. You can not install both the 32-bit and 64-bit version of SketchUp 2015. So if you are using a version earlier than 2015, you can install 2015 64-bit without affecting your current version.

david_h · 21 Nov 2014, 19:45

I am still struggling with loading some of my old reliable scripts into 2015. (Repair Broken Lines not withstanding) for some this I can change my work flow. But, for some scripts that I bought from SMUSTARD or whatever, years go that have an RBS extension, How do I load those. Plugin store of course uses RBZ.

Any advice?

thx,

D

jeff hammond · 21 Nov 2014, 20:18

@david_h said:

I am still struggling with loading some of my old reliable scripts into 2015. (Repair Broken Lines not withstanding) for some this I can change my work flow. But, for some scripts that I bought from SMUSTARD or whatever, years go that have an RBS extension, How do I load those. Plugin store of course uses RBZ.

Any advice?

thx,

D

you can put them in the plugin folder manually.. the old way. (i don't know where it's at on windows.. someone else will have to tell you).

if you want to install them via sketchup itself, there's a quirky little workaround you can try..

get all your .rb and .rbs files together along with any supporting folders.. select them then right-click-> Compress Items (or, do whatever you have to do to make them into a .zip).. so now you have a zip containing all the plugins.
change the name of that zip to .rbz (example.zip --> example.rbz)

now use sketchup to install that .rbz and all the plugins inside it will go into the plugin folder for you.

(probably better to install them manually ..but, it is possible and it's a decent way to move a collection of plugins between computers etc.)

david_h · 21 Nov 2014, 20:36

Thanks Jeff. That work around worked. I did a test run on a routine, and it worked great.

Kudos, huzzahs and cheers all around.

jeff hammond · 21 Nov 2014, 20:52

@david_h said:

Thanks Jeff. That work around worked. I did a test run on a routine, and it worked great.

Kudos, huzzahs and cheers all around.

yeah, it's cool because all the plugins load up and are ready for use when doing it with the .rbz (.RuBy_Zip)

jpmorla · 22 Nov 2014, 02:00

@jim said:

You can install and use differing versions of SketchUp on a computer. You can not install both the 32-bit and 64-bit version of SketchUp 2015. So if you are using a version earlier than 2015, you can install 2015 64-bit without affecting your current version.

Thank you Jim! I am going it a try this evening. So excited!

Jim · 22 Nov 2014, 10:47

@david_h said:

I am still struggling with loading some of my old reliable scripts into 2015. (Repair Broken Lines not withstanding) for some this I can change my work flow. But, for some scripts that I bought from SMUSTARD or whatever, years go that have an RBS extension, How do I load those. Plugin store of course uses RBZ.

Any advice?

thx,

D

For repair_broken_lines.rb - lines 27 and 42 - remove the space after the function name but before the (

But probably TT's Cleanup plugin is better to use.

jeff hammond · 25 Nov 2014, 04:17

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rhino for mac just gained .skp import/export.. made possible because of sketchup's 64bit_ness

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TIG · 25 Nov 2014, 16:35

The first v2015 Maintenance Release M1 is now out.
If you download the appropriate installer from the usual SketchUp pages, then you will find it's now 15.1...
But currently Trimble have not been able to update their Release Notes which still speak of 15.0...

I understand that the main changes were made to fix issues experienced by a few PC/MAC users who could not install 15.0... without a crash ! and to fix another rare crash with some users when trying some Layout fly-outs...

sfto1 · 25 Nov 2014, 18:02

I do not see a maintenance release at sketchup.com . Where did you see this?

Rich O Brien · 25 Nov 2014, 18:06

You won't see it as yet. But the downloadable file should be the newer maintenance release.

TIG · 25 Nov 2014, 19:04

As I explained - the SketchUp 2015 Release Notes are not currently up to date with the installers' actual 15.1... versions.
But if you download and install from the current links you'll get v15.1...
Unfortunately the Release Notes still say 15.0... because they have not yet been updated !
And Trimble have made no proper announcement !

We are actually doing a favor to any users who were having problems installing v2015 in its initial format, and to the tardy SketchUp/Trimble guys - by announcing their updated version, which has been available since the end of last week, but which Trimble have failed to publicize thus far !
Why they have elected to do this, when M1 is to help users with difficulties in installing v2015, and they won't know there is a fixed update available - available since last Friday - it'll be Wednesday shortly !