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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      I only needed to set permissions for the Plugins folder. I have had no reason to touch any of the folders inside of that folder. Perhaps if you had set the permissions for the folder up front before adding the plugins to it, you wouldn't have had any problems.

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        digitecture
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        @dave r said:

        I only needed to set permissions for the Plugins folder. I have had no reason to touch any of the folders inside of that folder. Perhaps if you had set the permissions for the folder up front before adding the plugins to it, you wouldn't have had any problems.

        The problem is unless you have encountered this problem, the general user would never know about this.

        This is the first time, I have had SketchUp crash like this that required a search for an answer.

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
          last edited by

          @digitecture said:

          The problem is unless you have encountered this problem, the general user would never know about this.

          This is the first time, I have had SketchUp crash like this that required a search for an answer.

          I'm not scolding. It's true, you wouldn't.

          On the other hand, a huge number of the posts in the original thread for the plugin cover this exact problem. This also shows threads for a number of other plugins. So the information is available. Fredo's RoundCorner plugin thread makes it clear in the first few lines. Maybe he could add that comment to his other threads as well.

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          • G Offline
            gigi500
            last edited by

            Was there a solution? I have the same problem, Mac 2013pro, permissions, etc, reloaded - still crashes....The only plug in that does...Fredo6's loft tools do not, so I have an updated library, etc

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            • C Offline
              castromann
              last edited by

              Same question?

              Also on mac ML with Sketchup 2013. BZ tools crash every time.

              I went through all the suggestion in this and the plugin thread and unfortunately nothing helped.

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              • fredo6F Offline
                fredo6
                last edited by

                @castromann said:

                Same question?

                Also on mac ML with Sketchup 2013. BZ tools crash every time.

                I went through all the suggestion in this and the plugin thread and unfortunately nothing helped.

                Do you get a crash too with my other plugins (like FredoScale, RoundCorner, ...)?

                Fredo

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                • C Offline
                  castromann
                  last edited by

                  no, not at all. everything else works perfectly fine.

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                  • EdsonE Offline
                    Edson
                    last edited by

                    I have the same problem in one of my 3 machines. they all run Mountain Lion, the latest SU and the latest Fredo plugins, but the crashes occur in only one of them.

                    edson mahfuz, architect| porto alegre • brasil
                    http://www.mahfuz.arq.br

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                    • fredo6F Offline
                      fredo6
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                      @edson said:

                      I have the same problem in one of my 3 machines. they all run Mountain Lion, the latest SU and the latest Fredo plugins, but the crashes occur in only one of them.

                      What would be helpful is that you describe the context of the crash

                      • at startup or when drawing or when generating or when modifying
                      • which tool or all tools
                      • etc....

                      Fredo

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                        castromann
                        last edited by

                        @fredo6 said:

                        What would be helpful is that you describe the context of the crash

                        • at startup or when drawing or when generating or when modifying
                        • which tool or all tools
                        • etc....

                        Fredo

                        Ok, I played around with the different tools for some time each. Problem is: There's seems to be no pattern in when or which tool crashes. Sometimes first click into the canvas, sometimes some control points into the operation. It seems that each tool crashes equally probable.

                        Let me know if I can do anything else to find the cause of this?!

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                        • fredo6F Offline
                          fredo6
                          last edited by

                          Apparently the problem occurs on Mac (and possibly on some versions of OSX) and the subsequent problem is that I don't have a Mac to try reproduce it.

                          So, currently I see two ways to progress:

                          1. when you get the bug splat, please send it with comments that this is about BezierSpline. The sketchup team may identify the area or operations which is guilty.

                          2. By chance or by accident, you may find a configuration where the crash is reproducible. If so, let me know, as I can ship a version equipped with traces to find out where it could be.

                          Fredo

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                            tedvitale
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                            Ive been running into similar issues over the past 3 weeks now. Sketchup has become very unstable using any of the Fredo tools (running SKU Pro 2013), but the root of it seems to stem from a plugin I installed called the Energy Plus Legacy Open Studio (its utter crap ans also breaks V-Ray and a bunch of other plugins). Immediately after installing it I've had nothing but headaches. Ive since uninstalled that plugin, uninstalled and reinstaled a fresh version of Sketchup, and reinstalled everything else (fredo and other plugins), so I thought the problems would stop, but It still persists. I get the most issues when running round corners, Joint Push Pull, and Curvizard, as well as the boolean operations native to sketchup.

                            I used to have a script that I could run that seemed to do the trick, I have no idea what it is or where I got it, but I would run the .bat operation, and it would re-organize the plugins menu and I would get more reliability out of the plugins. However that was in SU 8, I don't know if it would work in 13.

                            Anyway, all that said, I can reproduce the bug-splat issue consistently by running the round corner operation. Operations to reproduce go like this:

                            1. open new sketchup scene
                            2. create geometry
                            3. run round corners (any of the 3 will do)
                            4. operation will finish.
                            5. once the tool is finished; clicking, closing or any next operation will result in a sketchup bug-splat.

                            Ill check tomorrow when I get to work, see if its pulling too much memory and thats crashing SU or maybe theres a background operation that keeps running causing the crash? Im not really sure. But things are not going well at the moment. I'm pretty sure its a plugin conflict, I'm just not sure where because everything was running great 3 weeks ago and thats the setup Ive reverted too.

                            Ted Vitale
                            3D Artist and designer
                            Sketchup 2013 Pro

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              Vray has been known to cause conflicts with other plugins too. Did you try disabling it as well?

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                              • TedVitale_CGT Offline
                                TedVitale_CG
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                                I'm working on a recent build of V-Ray now, it doesn't seem to make a difference if it's installed or not. But I'll remove it and see if the issue persists. It hasn't been causing problems, however somthing in the most recent nightly may be doing it. We shal see.

                                Ted Vitale
                                Owner | Creative Director
                                http://www.voxl.vision

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                                • Dave RD Offline
                                  Dave R
                                  last edited by

                                  I've not had any issues with any of Fredo's tools causing SU to crash but then I don't have any of those plugins that are known to cause problems. Maybe the latest build of the Vray plugin is better but it has been known to cause problems for a lot of users. This has been widely reported here on SCF.

                                  Another thing to look at is the permissions for the Plugins folder. Make sure all users have full permissions established.

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