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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      Is the bolt maker plugin locating the axes incorrectly or did you just rotate the component after creating it? As I said, if you aren't going to set the component to glue, adjust the axes so it'll insert in the most common orientation.

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
        last edited by

        Right click on the component and a context menu item is unglue.

        You can always explode the component in the correct location and remake it as a component which will give you the opportunity to set the axis, glue, cut etc

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        • bsintzelB Offline
          bsintzel
          last edited by

          Dave,

          Thinking that I might have...I went back and created a new bolt with BoltMaker XII. I was correct in that the z-axis always points down when using this plugin.

          Box:

          I tried your suggestion. I can see the 'unglue' option in the context window, but it's greyed out. I also tried putting the bolt component ( seen in the block) in edit mode, but it made no difference. Using the file I attached, are you able to see it black and not grey?

          I've taken obfuscating to a whole new level!

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          • T Offline
            TECHDAVE02
            last edited by

            I have used BoltMaker and it has always produced the fastener with the axes in this configuration and my solution was always to match the specialty fastener to it. Or to go into the component delete it and redraw/copy past new one if I want all the instances to be the same

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
              last edited by

              Lousy plugin, then. πŸ˜’

              If anyone takes up your challenge to rewrite/improve the plugin, maybe they can fix this problem, too.

              If Unglue is greyed out, there's no gluing established. If a component has three distinct axes as in your example and the screen shot I posted, there is no gluing.

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              • BoxB Offline
                Box
                last edited by

                That isn't what he is talking about.

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                • T Offline
                  TECHDAVE02
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  in edit mode, but it made no difference. Using the file I attached, are you able to see it black and not grey?

                  Bob
                  I am not sure if you are saying that it is hard to see??
                  If so adjust as follows.

                  adjust to suit

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                  • bsintzelB Offline
                    bsintzel
                    last edited by

                    TECHDAVE: Nope (but thanks anyway πŸ‘ ), see the screenshot and it'll make more sense.
                    unglue.jpg

                    Dave: Not sure if I would call it "lousy" , rather 'more in need of some polishing up'.

                    It's really quite a useful tool. It's just too bad it uses an unconventional way to set the axis of the components it makes.

                    I've already chatted with the developer and he will permit 'anyone' to tweak it. He is no longer updating any of his plugins.

                    There's a LOT of smart coders in here, surely someone has the skills to tweak this puppy. I think it deserves it. πŸ€“

                    Thanks again to all for participating

                    I've taken obfuscating to a whole new level!

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                    • BoxB Offline
                      Box
                      last edited by

                      I'm unable to look at your models as I am languishing in a hospital waiting room at present with just my phone, so perhaps I don't understand correctly.

                      Can you not use the plugin to create the geometry, place it once correctly, then explode and recomponent it with the correct properties, then use the corrected component to insert or replace.

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                      • bsintzelB Offline
                        bsintzel
                        last edited by

                        Box: what ap are you using on your phone to monitor this forum? I have an Android phone, and I could use such an ap.

                        And yes, I can do all of the things you mentioned, however, I found that the BoltMaker plugin allowed me to create custom-sized bolts in very rapid succession. Granted, I haven't found a way to incorporate my own bolt/nut designs using it, but I'm hoping with time, that some clever developer will take up the gauntlet and give it a go.

                        Warm regards

                        Bob

                        I've taken obfuscating to a whole new level!

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                        • bsintzelB Offline
                          bsintzel
                          last edited by

                          Gaieus,

                          Thanks for the the tutorial links. The last one was particularly enlightening. β˜€

                          Bob

                          I've taken obfuscating to a whole new level!

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            Are you keeping bolts the plugin creates for later use? Or are you just making them as you need them?

                            I would be correcting the component axes as I made the bolts whether they are made manually or via the plugin and save them for future use. I wouldn't ever make the same bolt or screw more than once.

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                            • BoxB Offline
                              Box
                              last edited by

                              I believe you can use tapatalk with the forum these days, but I still happily use a browser to access the forum. I currently use Dolphin browser, seems to work for me, but obviously you can't open skp's.

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                              • bsintzelB Offline
                                bsintzel
                                last edited by

                                Dave,

                                RE: "I wouldn't ever make the same bolt or screw more than once". I agree, neither would I.

                                I use different bolts/nut components for different projects, but never recreate them from scratch each time. πŸ˜„

                                I keep a collection of them for my wood working projects and import them as needed.

                                Ideally, I would like to be able to buy a plugin that would allow me to pick a bolt/nut assembly from a library (much like Autodesk Inventor) then with once click, place it where I want and with the correct axis orientation. After that, all should need to do is 'nudge' the component up/down the z-axis and/or push/pull the bolt to specs.

                                So far, I haven't found such a plugin and have had to resort to a manual process 🀒 .

                                When you work with a multi-hinged project, doing this manually is very time consuming.

                                Bob

                                I've taken obfuscating to a whole new level!

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                                • T Offline
                                  TECHDAVE02
                                  last edited by

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  Are you keeping bolts the plugin creates for later use? Or are you just making them as you need them?

                                  Dave R
                                  The plug in keeps bolts of the same size Dia./length and they are added to the entity count/COMPONENTS in the model.
                                  If you flip the axes the next time that you use the same bolt........
                                  BOLT.JPG

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                                  • bsintzelB Offline
                                    bsintzel
                                    last edited by

                                    Dave R,

                                    Great tip...I'll do just that and see what happens. It might be just as simple as what you say πŸ‘ .

                                    I've taken obfuscating to a whole new level!

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
                                      last edited by

                                      @TECHDAVE, I was referring to keeping components for future use in other models, not just the current one. You seem to be referring to the current model only.

                                      Bob, what tip is the "great tip"?

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        Why don't you make the 'SKP library of bolt components' and sell it to others ?

                                        TIG

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                                        • T Offline
                                          TECHDAVE02
                                          last edited by

                                          Dave R

                                          I understood that but if you are using BoltMaker over and over in the same model that is the result.
                                          The points that you make are all valid and I agree wholeheartedly with you and tig on all counts but if at this point BoltMaker is used then the workaround must consider this.

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                                          • bsintzelB Offline
                                            bsintzel
                                            last edited by

                                            Techdave02

                                            Sorry for the fuzzy answer: I was referring to a library of components I keep for all of my models πŸ˜‰

                                            I've taken obfuscating to a whole new level!

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