SketchUp 2013 ;)

jiminy-billy-bob · 22 May 2013, 11:38

@thomthom said:

There are more improvements, but under the hood.

Which are ?...

ilay7k · 22 May 2013, 11:41

@jiminy-billy-bob said:

@thomthom said:

There are more improvements, but under the hood.

Which are ?...

He does not know.
There are not new features.

thomthom · 22 May 2013, 11:47

@ilay7k said:

@jiminy-billy-bob said:

@thomthom said:

There are more improvements, but under the hood.

Which are ?...

He does not know.
There are not new features.

What do you know what I know?

One of the things under the hood is a new supported C API SDK aimed to replaced the old unsupported C++ API SDK.

Not something the end user benefits from directly right now, something that benefits the whole SketchUp ecosystem in the long run.

jason_maranto · 22 May 2013, 11:51

I heard about this release on the Maxwell forum and decided to come by to see exactly how bad it actually was -- and it's actually worse than I expected... that's hilarious. I especially like to see the people desperately trying to find something to be enthusiastic about... you've been trolled by Trimble, time to move on.

This is may be the worst full version update I've seen yet -- the licensing is a joke and I am now %100 convinced to give my money to another software company and never look back again.

If I hear at some point that Bacus is fired I may take a look at SketchUp again (unlikely though), until then have fun paying for this joke

Best,
Jason.

archheni · 22 May 2013, 12:05

I'm simply speechless. Do they really believe that the majority of Pro users are willing to pay for this "maintenance/ bugfix" update!?
For the new feature of the customizable toolbar - this has been possible in the Mac version a long time ago already incl. for 3rd party tools and ruby plugins. But now it can only be customized with native tools(!). Every restart will wipe out all non-native plugins and tools.. Sorry, but this is a step back and not a new feature! Now given the speedy development of the past, one tends to assume that it might get re-addressed again as a "new feature" in SU2014..

thomthom · 22 May 2013, 12:36

@archheni said:

Every restart will wipe out all non-native plugins and tools..

?
What's being wiped out?

stebehan · 22 May 2013, 12:57

Hi

AMAZING!
You probably all missed the best feature!!! The old boring google Susan is finally replaced by fancy Trimble Derrick...wohooo I am excited!

archheni · 22 May 2013, 13:08

@stebehan said:

Hi

AMAZING!
You probably all missed the best feature!!! The old boring google Susan is finally replaced by fancy Trimble Derrick...wohooo I am excited!

..And the best about this amazing new best feature of Trimble Derrick is his hidden ironic statement: "This ain't our first rodeo." Well..

arail1 · 22 May 2013, 13:09

@seasdes said:

Anyone having trouble buying the upgrade?
I keep getting a message that I have entered incorrect licence info.
I entered the licence info by copying and pasting from the licence info that was emailed to me by Google when I upgraded to V8.

Confusing and poorly thought out to say the least.

What I did:
I paid for the upgrade.
They sent me license info, etc. by email.
I downloaded SketchUp 2013 Pro
Then I opened the program and went to Help > License, etc and inputted my new license info and that worked.

I have no idea what the page you get when you try to upgrade through the website is supposed to do. It wouldn't take my old license info, my new license info, nothing.

Chiefwoodworker · 22 May 2013, 13:10

@aerilius said:

@chiefwoodworker said:

So far Trimble gets a failing grade from me for its influence on SketchUp.

In what way does Trimble show a different influence than Google? I don't see any influence.

......

While the development team has been continuously grown at a rapid rate, I'd expect visible changes to appear through the Extension Warehouse. This is the way through which Trimble and SketchUp give you new tools.

You are correct. You don't see any [Trimble] influence. That's sad.

Interesting business model you articulated. Trimble/SketchUp introduces a major release with no incremental features and charges more for it. Adds an extension's store for hobby Rubyist's to create new features and distribute them, which has no cost to Trimble, but has the effect of SketchUp features improving. In other words, Trimble profiting on the backs of the Rubyist's.

Don't misunderstand me, I am a huge fan of SketchUp and the Ruby API. And I am ok with that model. But it seems that Trimble could at least do something for the Rubyist's, like upgrade to 1.9 or 2.0, add a Unit Test feature to the Console, allow for multiple lines of code in the console, fix some bugs that have been around forever like print to scale, and a whole host of method bugs (which may be fixed, but until I see the fix I am skeptical).

I hope you are correct that Trimble is putting in place an infrastructure that will bring great things in the future. But this major version release surely does not hint of that.

charly2008 · 22 May 2013, 13:10

Hi to All,

@dave r said:

Yes, 2013 is released. If you're after the free version you want to download SketchUp 2013 Make.

I have downloaded the program but it is the Pro version. Did I miss anything on the Trimble homepage?

Charly

TIG · 22 May 2013, 13:11

The first 8 hours of Make run as Pro.
Then it reverts to Make [aka Free].

archheni · 22 May 2013, 13:21

@thomthom said:

@archheni said:

Every restart will wipe out all non-native plugins and tools..

?
What's being wiped out?

..All non-native plugins on the customized toolbar.

wyatt · 22 May 2013, 13:39

I haven't seen any discussion regarding the cost to skip 2013 and upgrade from SketchUp Pro 8 to SketchUp Pro 2014. Will it be $95 or would one have to buy another full $590 license to skip a release cycle?

numerobis · 22 May 2013, 13:44

"Sketchup MAKE"

slbaumgartner · 22 May 2013, 13:49

@archheni said:

@thomthom said:

@archheni said:

Every restart will wipe out all non-native plugins and tools..

?
What's being wiped out?

..All non-native plugins on the customized toolbar.

This looks to me like a long-standing issue has simply continued. Every time I start SketchUp on the Mac, it opens a blank file window with a toolbar that contains only the built-ins. If I close that file and do a File->New, the customized toolbar is restored. Despite numerous complaints in the past, it appears that 2013 does nothing about this...

Chiefwoodworker · 22 May 2013, 13:52

@wyatt said:

I haven't seen any discussion regarding the cost to skip 2013 and upgrade from SketchUp Pro 8 to SketchUp Pro 2014. Will it be $95 or would one have to buy another full $590 license to skip a release cycle?

The upgrade from SketchUp Pro 8 to SketchUp Pro 2013 is $95 plus state tax.

renderiza · 22 May 2013, 13:56

What I am worried is not the lack of features but the changes on things that were already there. For example before you could use free license for commercial use and now you can't?...

Removing some benefits that we had before is not something Trimble will expect people to be happy about specially with a release that most are having to dig deep to find what is new.

I am exited about the changes under the hood that will establish the foundation for greatest things to come so I'll cut Trimble some slack and give them credit in that regard.

IdahoJ · 22 May 2013, 14:03

I find 2013 to be, in a word, unimpressive.

JGA · 22 May 2013, 14:09

I've just loaded SKUP 2013 to a Win7 64 bit PC & still can't get the file image previews to work in Windows Explorer - can anyone else get theirs to view the files?
Bring back WinXP & SKUP 7.1!