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    [Plugin] Face2Frame - Updated 27-Mar-2014

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    • KrisidiousK Offline
      Krisidious
      last edited by

      @unknownuser said:

      The apparent overlap of the headers is the 3/4" plywood spacer between the headers.

      Yes that was my addition... Here in America on the jobs that I've worked we use Plywood in our headers.

      http://biytoday.com/header.jpg

      By: Kristoff Rand
      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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      • M Offline
        mics_54
        last edited by

        I haven't laminated headers in a decades...energy efficiency dictates 4x10 or 4x12 headers with 2 inches of foam insulation or spray foam on fully sheathed structures.

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        • KrisidiousK Offline
          Krisidious
          last edited by

          @mics_54 said:

          I haven't laminated headers in a decades...energy efficiency dictates 4x10 or 4x12 headers with 2 inches of foam insulation or spray foam on fully sheathed structures.

          Rich Boy... 🀣

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          • KrisidiousK Offline
            Krisidious
            last edited by

            I must admit I have not framed a house in probably 20 years and I don't provide framing details as framers from different areas do things differently and I assume know their trade better than I. So I would defer to those who know better.

            By: Kristoff Rand
            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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            • M Offline
              mics_54
              last edited by

              You're warm weather too...I do arctic construction.

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              • gullfoG Offline
                gullfo
                last edited by

                i wasn't sure if that was a laminate or not but it's ok. in general, i see a lot of newer construction with the laminated i-beam for the headers (similar to floors and rafters) and a foam fill. i think the headers work as-is and folks can draw any details necessary to describe their preferred approach πŸ˜„ it would be really cool if you could "x" the ends of the lumber so a 2D / wireframe view can show it like a construction plan would...

                Glenn

                http://www.runnel.com

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                • KrisidiousK Offline
                  Krisidious
                  last edited by

                  @gullfo said:

                  i wasn't sure if that was a laminate or not but it's ok. in general, i see a lot of newer construction with the laminated i-beam for the headers (similar to floors and rafters) and a foam fill. i think the headers work as-is and folks can draw any details necessary to describe their preferred approach πŸ˜„ it would be really cool if you could "x" the ends of the lumber so a 2D / wireframe view can show it like a construction plan would...

                  I considered that X as well, but not only at the ends but two faces all the way through studs, so that any stud in any location would show in sections as such. It would jump the polys up quite a bit but I don't think that would be a very big issue.

                  By: Kristoff Rand
                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                  • sdmitchS Offline
                    sdmitch
                    last edited by

                    Just posted an update to Face2Frame. Now does floors, faces on the XY plane, and adds "X"s to ends of studs, headers and/or joist.

                    Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                    http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                    • LAUFERONL Offline
                      LAUFERON
                      last edited by

                      I'm french and i'd like the same famous plugin in metric units !

                      A dream for woodworkers....

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                      • sdmitchS Offline
                        sdmitch
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        I'm french and i'd like the same famous plugin in metric units !

                        A dream for woodworkers....

                        Sorry, I don't do metric.

                        Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                        http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                        • TIGT Offline
                          TIG Moderator
                          last edited by

                          You can 'metricate' it relatively easily...

                          @wall_type = "Ext" #unless @wall_type
                          @stud_size = "2X4" #unless @stud_size; 
                          @stud_space=16.inch #unless @stud_space
                          @header_size = "2X8" #unless @header_size
                          @corner_type = "A"
                          @thickness=0.0
                          

                          could become

                          @wall_type = "Ext" #unless @wall_type
                          @stud_size = "50mmX100mm" #unless @stud_size; 
                          @stud_space=400.mm #unless @stud_space
                          @header_size = "50mmX200mm" #unless @header_size
                          @corner_type = "A"
                          @thickness=0.mm
                          

                          Then in the html code... make similar edits so
                          <option value='2X2'>2x2</option>
                          ...
                          <option value='16\"' selected>16\"</option>
                          becomes
                          <option value='50mmX50mm'>50mmx50mm</option>
                          ...
                          <option value='400mm' selected>400mm</option>
                          and so on...
                          Now the cases for the stud sizes...
                          case @stud_size when "2X2" : dx = 1.500.inch; dy = 1.500.inch;
                          ...
                          becomes
                          case @stud_size when "50mmX50mm" ; dx = 38.mm; dy = 38.mm;
                          OR whatever...
                          Fix all 8 or so of those sizes...
                          unless @wall_type=="Int" || (@stud_size!="2X4" && @stud_size!="2X6") case @stud_size when "2X4" case @corner_type when "A" ; studs=self.A_2X4(xa,ya,p,v,dx,dy)
                          ...
                          Needs to be looked at...
                          unless @wall_type=="Int" || (@stud_size!="50mmX100mm" && @stud_size!="50mmX150mm") case @stud_size when "50mmX100mm" case @corner_type when "A" ; studs=self.A_50mmX100mm(xa,ya,p,v,dx,dy)
                          ...
                          Then rename the matching
                          def A_2X4(vx,vy,p,v,dx,dy)
                          as
                          def A_50mmX100mm(vx,vy,p,v,dx,dy)
                          etc
                          The parts like 1/2" plywood spacer need 0.5 replacing with 12.mm or whatever is the equivalent ?
                          Parts of the code like dx+0.01 which add a 1/100" spacing could be adjusted to 0.25.mm or some other small metric equivalent ?
                          As can [ruby:13xikt90]dx2-0.02[/ruby:13xikt90] to be [ruby:13xikt90]dx2-0.5.mm[/ruby:13xikt90]
                          It just a matter of steps through every line and deciding what is needed...

                          TIG

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                          • KrisidiousK Offline
                            Krisidious
                            last edited by

                            Counting in multiples and intervals of 10 is sorcery... Witch craft I say! Someone get a rope and a rock.

                            By: Kristoff Rand
                            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                            • V Offline
                              virtualelvis
                              last edited by

                              What am I doing wrong? I cannot figure out how to find this
                              plugin to use it..
                              I put it in my plugins folder.. but I can't figure out how to use it...
                              I looked under draw and plugins...
                              thanks for helping a noob.. d

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                              • KrisidiousK Offline
                                Krisidious
                                last edited by

                                Go to Plugins>SDM Tools>Face Tool>Face2Frame

                                By: Kristoff Rand
                                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                • sdmitchS Offline
                                  sdmitch
                                  last edited by

                                  Updated to be SU2014 compatible.

                                  Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                  http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                  • TIGT Offline
                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by

                                    I've added it to the PluginStore.
                                    http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=Face_to_Frame

                                    TIG

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                                    • KrisidiousK Offline
                                      Krisidious
                                      last edited by

                                      Not using 2014 yet, but thanks for the work guys...

                                      By: Kristoff Rand
                                      Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                      • utilerU Offline
                                        utiler
                                        last edited by

                                        Hi Sam, I note above you said you haven't considered converting this plugin for metric use and TIG has outlined how to 'metricate' it. I'm a little unsure how this is done; Do I try and open the script and edit it? A little risky given I nothing about coding....

                                        Cheers.

                                        purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                        • PixeroP Offline
                                          Pixero
                                          last edited by

                                          You could try opening it in a texteditor. I use Notepad++.
                                          Set the language to Ruby and try to find the lines described by TIG.

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                                          • sdmitchS Offline
                                            sdmitch
                                            last edited by

                                            @utiler said:

                                            Hi Sam, I note above you said you haven't considered converting this plugin for metric use and TIG has outlined how to 'metricate' it. I'm a little unsure how this is done; Do I try and open the script and edit it? A little risky given I nothing about coding....

                                            Cheers.

                                            Better leave it to the "professionals". I'll take a look at it and PM you a copy to try.

                                            Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                            http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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