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[Plugin] Face2Frame - Updated 27-Mar-2014

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  • K Offline
    Krisidious
    last edited by 8 Apr 2013, 20:06

    @unknownuser said:

    The apparent overlap of the headers is the 3/4" plywood spacer between the headers.

    Yes that was my addition... Here in America on the jobs that I've worked we use Plywood in our headers.

    http://biytoday.com/header.jpg

    By: Kristoff Rand
    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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    • M Offline
      mics_54
      last edited by 9 Apr 2013, 00:32

      I haven't laminated headers in a decades...energy efficiency dictates 4x10 or 4x12 headers with 2 inches of foam insulation or spray foam on fully sheathed structures.

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      • K Offline
        Krisidious
        last edited by 9 Apr 2013, 00:43

        @mics_54 said:

        I haven't laminated headers in a decades...energy efficiency dictates 4x10 or 4x12 headers with 2 inches of foam insulation or spray foam on fully sheathed structures.

        Rich Boy... 🤣

        By: Kristoff Rand
        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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        • K Offline
          Krisidious
          last edited by 9 Apr 2013, 00:45

          I must admit I have not framed a house in probably 20 years and I don't provide framing details as framers from different areas do things differently and I assume know their trade better than I. So I would defer to those who know better.

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          • M Offline
            mics_54
            last edited by 9 Apr 2013, 01:18

            You're warm weather too...I do arctic construction.

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            • G Offline
              gullfo
              last edited by 9 Apr 2013, 12:48

              i wasn't sure if that was a laminate or not but it's ok. in general, i see a lot of newer construction with the laminated i-beam for the headers (similar to floors and rafters) and a foam fill. i think the headers work as-is and folks can draw any details necessary to describe their preferred approach 😄 it would be really cool if you could "x" the ends of the lumber so a 2D / wireframe view can show it like a construction plan would...

              Glenn

              http://www.runnel.com

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              • K Offline
                Krisidious
                last edited by 9 Apr 2013, 18:19

                @gullfo said:

                i wasn't sure if that was a laminate or not but it's ok. in general, i see a lot of newer construction with the laminated i-beam for the headers (similar to floors and rafters) and a foam fill. i think the headers work as-is and folks can draw any details necessary to describe their preferred approach 😄 it would be really cool if you could "x" the ends of the lumber so a 2D / wireframe view can show it like a construction plan would...

                I considered that X as well, but not only at the ends but two faces all the way through studs, so that any stud in any location would show in sections as such. It would jump the polys up quite a bit but I don't think that would be a very big issue.

                By: Kristoff Rand
                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                • S Offline
                  sdmitch
                  last edited by 14 Apr 2013, 15:44

                  Just posted an update to Face2Frame. Now does floors, faces on the XY plane, and adds "X"s to ends of studs, headers and/or joist.

                  Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                  http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                  • L Offline
                    LAUFERON
                    last edited by 28 Apr 2013, 08:32

                    I'm french and i'd like the same famous plugin in metric units !

                    A dream for woodworkers....

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                    • S Offline
                      sdmitch
                      last edited by 30 Apr 2013, 13:34

                      @unknownuser said:

                      I'm french and i'd like the same famous plugin in metric units !

                      A dream for woodworkers....

                      Sorry, I don't do metric.

                      Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                      http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                      • T Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by 30 Apr 2013, 13:53

                        You can 'metricate' it relatively easily...

                        @wall_type = "Ext" #unless @wall_type
                        @stud_size = "2X4" #unless @stud_size; 
                        @stud_space=16.inch #unless @stud_space
                        @header_size = "2X8" #unless @header_size
                        @corner_type = "A"
                        @thickness=0.0
                        

                        could become

                        @wall_type = "Ext" #unless @wall_type
                        @stud_size = "50mmX100mm" #unless @stud_size; 
                        @stud_space=400.mm #unless @stud_space
                        @header_size = "50mmX200mm" #unless @header_size
                        @corner_type = "A"
                        @thickness=0.mm
                        

                        Then in the html code... make similar edits so
                        <option value='2X2'>2x2</option>
                        ...
                        <option value='16\"' selected>16\"</option>
                        becomes
                        <option value='50mmX50mm'>50mmx50mm</option>
                        ...
                        <option value='400mm' selected>400mm</option>
                        and so on...
                        Now the cases for the stud sizes...
                        case @stud_size when "2X2" : dx = 1.500.inch; dy = 1.500.inch;
                        ...
                        becomes
                        case @stud_size when "50mmX50mm" ; dx = 38.mm; dy = 38.mm;
                        OR whatever...
                        Fix all 8 or so of those sizes...
                        unless @wall_type=="Int" || (@stud_size!="2X4" && @stud_size!="2X6") case @stud_size when "2X4" case @corner_type when "A" ; studs=self.A_2X4(xa,ya,p,v,dx,dy)
                        ...
                        Needs to be looked at...
                        unless @wall_type=="Int" || (@stud_size!="50mmX100mm" && @stud_size!="50mmX150mm") case @stud_size when "50mmX100mm" case @corner_type when "A" ; studs=self.A_50mmX100mm(xa,ya,p,v,dx,dy)
                        ...
                        Then rename the matching
                        def A_2X4(vx,vy,p,v,dx,dy)
                        as
                        def A_50mmX100mm(vx,vy,p,v,dx,dy)
                        etc
                        The parts like 1/2" plywood spacer need 0.5 replacing with 12.mm or whatever is the equivalent ?
                        Parts of the code like dx+0.01 which add a 1/100" spacing could be adjusted to 0.25.mm or some other small metric equivalent ?
                        As can [ruby:13xikt90]dx2-0.02[/ruby:13xikt90] to be [ruby:13xikt90]dx2-0.5.mm[/ruby:13xikt90]
                        It just a matter of steps through every line and deciding what is needed...

                        TIG

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                        • K Offline
                          Krisidious
                          last edited by 30 Apr 2013, 22:05

                          Counting in multiples and intervals of 10 is sorcery... Witch craft I say! Someone get a rope and a rock.

                          By: Kristoff Rand
                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                            virtualelvis
                            last edited by 1 May 2013, 18:57

                            What am I doing wrong? I cannot figure out how to find this
                            plugin to use it..
                            I put it in my plugins folder.. but I can't figure out how to use it...
                            I looked under draw and plugins...
                            thanks for helping a noob.. d

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                            • K Offline
                              Krisidious
                              last edited by 1 May 2013, 19:52

                              Go to Plugins>SDM Tools>Face Tool>Face2Frame

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • S Offline
                                sdmitch
                                last edited by 27 Mar 2014, 17:02

                                Updated to be SU2014 compatible.

                                Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                • T Offline
                                  TIG Moderator
                                  last edited by 27 Mar 2014, 18:44

                                  I've added it to the PluginStore.
                                  http://sketchucation.com/pluginstore?pln=Face_to_Frame

                                  TIG

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                                  • K Offline
                                    Krisidious
                                    last edited by 27 Mar 2014, 22:37

                                    Not using 2014 yet, but thanks for the work guys...

                                    By: Kristoff Rand
                                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                    • utilerU Offline
                                      utiler
                                      last edited by 17 Jan 2017, 04:12

                                      Hi Sam, I note above you said you haven't considered converting this plugin for metric use and TIG has outlined how to 'metricate' it. I'm a little unsure how this is done; Do I try and open the script and edit it? A little risky given I nothing about coding....

                                      Cheers.

                                      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                                      • PixeroP Offline
                                        Pixero
                                        last edited by 17 Jan 2017, 07:41

                                        You could try opening it in a texteditor. I use Notepad++.
                                        Set the language to Ruby and try to find the lines described by TIG.

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                                        • S Offline
                                          sdmitch
                                          last edited by 17 Jan 2017, 17:05

                                          @utiler said:

                                          Hi Sam, I note above you said you haven't considered converting this plugin for metric use and TIG has outlined how to 'metricate' it. I'm a little unsure how this is done; Do I try and open the script and edit it? A little risky given I nothing about coding....

                                          Cheers.

                                          Better leave it to the "professionals". I'll take a look at it and PM you a copy to try.

                                          Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                          http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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