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    • M Offline
      MattC
      last edited by

      @juanjo said:

      But I have a little problem: you say that for this to run properly this plugin requires "delauney3.rb"
      I don't have it... I only have "delaunay2.rb".
      Also tried to use "qhull.rb" but it's a mess! I just get flashing DOS-screen ans crashes.... It's a shame, since it would also be a super-tool...
      Have you heard of any progress on that???

      Hi juanjo, if You download a zip package made by pjt, and not separate files from first post, then You will have "delauney3.rb" as a part of it.
      I couldn't get "qhull.rb" to work, and that was one of the reasons why I started to work on this project.
      But I have some problems with the code. Some cases generates strange forms. So the work continues.
      Greets

      Matt

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        dtolios
        last edited by

        @mattc said:

        Pilou You 're teasing me ๐Ÿ˜„
        Is it Sketchup ??
        Or something else?
        Well only step that I miss from those, is generation of 3D Voronoi ๐Ÿ˜„
        For rest I have plugins already.

        @ Joel, indeed there WAS a problem - file in first message is updated.
        Matt

        Would it be too much to ask for 3D Voronoi?
        I would be in...even if not for free... ๐Ÿ‘

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          MattC
          last edited by

          Well... I think 2D voronoi package (delauney triangulation by TIG + Voronoi on XY plane + Conic Curve + Convex hull on XY plane) is almost ready.
          Next step will be: (delauney triangulation in 3D + Voronoi 3D + Conic Curve + Convex hull 3D).
          But it is a lot more complicated.
          So it is a bit to early to decide free / paid - but I think donationware ( if You like it - gratify creator) is the way to go.
          Cheers
          Matt

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            the.pjt
            last edited by

            hello Matt, did you got the Icons ? ... or a more important question: is this plugin still alive ?

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              MattC
              last edited by

              Hi
              Yes I got it, Thanks a lot, I am a bit busy at my normal work, but plugin is still alive.
              I will try to get updated version online this weekend, but I was already focused on Voronoi2D version 2.0
              Cheers
              Matt

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                MattC
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                @ mitcorb - example : If You have polygon with 4 vertices, You can create 4 sets of points ([0,1,2],[1,2,3],[2,3,0],[3,0,1]).
                You can use those sets of points to create rational bezier spline(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C3%A9zier_curve#Rational_B.C3.A9zier_curves) by asigning weight to every point.
                Special case is when You set for first and third point weight = 1 , and weight "w" for second point.

                • when w>1 then created curve is a hyperbole
                • when w=1 then created curve is a parabole
                • when w<1 then created curve is an ellipse (in special case circle)
                  Hyperbole, parabole ellipse and circle are known as a conic curves or conic sections , because You can create them by cutting cone with a plane.
                  For further read : http://www.cs.mtu.edu/~shene/COURSES/cs3621/NOTES/spline/NURBS/RB-conics.html
                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conic_section

                If You draw square, and apply coniccurve with weight w = sqrt(2)/2 = 0,7071, You will get a circle.

                @ Pilou - This is an implementation of 3DVoronoi - this is my next step, but at this moment I struggle a bit with a code...

                Matt

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                  dekay
                  last edited by

                  tanks a lot, your script is very easy to use compared to others.it has been very helpful to me.

                  thank you once again..

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                    victor hugo
                    last edited by

                    Very interesting plugin...
                    where can I get the CPOINT creator or a CPOINT plugin?

                    Thanks.

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                      cotty
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                      @unknownuser said:

                      Very interesting plugin...
                      where can I get the CPOINT creator or a CPOINT plugin?
                      Thanks.

                      Here

                      my SketchUp gallery

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                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Why not put in the first post the link for the Delauney3.rb by Tig ?
                        It was not so evident to find it! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                        here the link! ๐Ÿ˜‰

                        Else works fine ๐Ÿ˜„

                        voro01.jpg


                        voro02.jpg

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                          ivreich
                          last edited by

                          VoronoiXY Error

                          Hi MattC

                          I'm still having problems creating a simple 2D Voronoi. Have attached the file with the cpoints and the error message.

                          Conic curve seems to work fine...

                          Cheers

                          joel

                          UPDATE: I see what the problem is. It's still the co-linear points. The plugin will not work if any of the points are colinear in either the X or Y axis.

                          Something that can be fixed?


                          SU File


                          Error message

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                            pilou
                            last edited by

                            And about Conic Curve
                            Does this possible ?

                            conic_wanted.jpg

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              pilou
                              last edited by

                              Hello

                              For the Voronoรฏ (with SU V7 tested) images previous post
                              All works fine except I must click on the Ok Botton for have a voronoรฏ polygon for each new polygon! ๐Ÿ˜ฒ ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                              Tig triangle works for a selection of points in one pass! ๐Ÿ‘

                              And for the conic curve : does it possible to have the same for a selection of faces ?
                              Click on each polygon is some tiedious when you have thousand of them!

                              voronoi2.jpg

                              EDIT : About Voronoรฏ xy

                              @unknownuser said:

                              I must click on the Ok Botton

                              Works fine in V8 ! โ˜€

                              But something must be made for the UNDO !!! ๐Ÿ˜‰
                              Here you must make each CTRL+ Z for each polygon ! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                                MattC
                                last edited by

                                Hi Pilou, Hello everybody

                                Currently I am rewriting the whole Voronoi 2D plug-in.
                                It is going painfully slow, but I have a lot of other things on my head right now.
                                Why I am completely redesigning it? Well my understanding of Ruby got a bit better, and also I got some new ideas how to tackle this problem.
                                What I want to accomplish:

                                1. prepare a nice flow chart for a process of creating 2D Voronoi diagram
                                2. based on that define set of standard functions that will be used
                                3. compose final version of Voronoi 2D plug-in
                                • do steps 1-3 with 3D Voronoi
                                • do steps 1-3 with Conic Curve
                                • do steps 1-3 with random point generator (2D and 3D)

                                Shall I succeed then next step would be a "fracture tool" similar to one in Blender.

                                @ Pilou
                                So to create voronoi diagram You have to iterate through the message boxes i=1, i=2 ... etc?
                                I think that that was one of the first complains and I have disabled it in one of later versions. If not I can do it one more time. the same applies to UNDO in one step. Conic curve on all faces in selection was also made, but I don't know if it was made an official release.

                                Your last question is more complicated. Conic curve plug-in was made as a response to the topic in the first post. There You can see that there are multiple curves inside polygons. And all the polygons are convex. So the conic curve , which is a construction based on 3 points (let's say A B and C), is always located inside the smaller angle near the point B. In Your case polygon is Concave and conic curve will go outside. Is it possible to force it inside? Well it is.
                                See explanation of how the conic curve is made in first post. You have to set an offset that will sit well inside, and also play with a weight value. But in this version You cannot set different weights for every vertex. Maybe I will get to that in one of the future releases.

                                Stay tuned for more details. I will try to make a nice blog (possibly later an e-book) about it.

                                Cheers
                                Matt

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by

                                  Cool ! โ˜€

                                  For the OK Button that must be something between V7 V8
                                  not works in V7, works in V8

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

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                                    notareal
                                    last edited by

                                    MattC, that sounds great! Cannot wait.

                                    Welcome to try [Thea Render](http://www.thearender.com/), Thea support | [kerkythea.net](http://www.kerkythea.net/) -team member

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                                      MattC
                                      last edited by

                                      So it is officially begonnen:
                                      spin-heads.blogspot.com

                                      Cheers
                                      Matt

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                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        Appetizing first page! โ˜€

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                          Mra
                                          last edited by

                                          Hey, nice plugin - but I do not know how to use.

                                          Every option simply brings up a cmd.exe for a millisecond and nothing ever happens.

                                          The steps in the OP are unclear to me? How do we first generate the CP points?

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                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            How do we first generate the CP points?

                                            You just draw them as you want!

                                            First image

                                            One rectangle as plane background where you draw as you want the Control points
                                            DON'T erase the "background"
                                            Select points
                                            Call the plug
                                            Select points
                                            Erase points

                                            Second image
                                            Select lines
                                            Call Lattice Maker by Tig
                                            Call Random Painter by Chris Fullmer

                                            Selection Toys for select only points by ThomThom

                                            Lattice Maker by Tig

                                            Random Painter by Chris Fullmer

                                            http://www.3dsaloon.fr/phpbb3/download/file.php?id=3741&mode=view/rokbox.jpg

                                            http://www.3dsaloon.fr/phpbb3/download/file.php?id=3743

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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