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  • G Offline
    Gaieus
    last edited by 16 May 2012, 10:05

    Hm. I am not sure what you are doing wrong. Make sure however to completely turn off slicing in Fredoscale (see the post above). The reason is that UV Toolkit can only remember UV co-ordinates on the exact same faces it remembered them from. This means you cannot introduce any new faces otherwise it will not work. The number of faces must be the same before and after the bending.

    For this same reason (and to be able to bend the column), I had to copy all your divided edges onto the other three sides as well.

    @juanfernandez said:

    after CTLR+delete to smooth the inner lines of separation I cannot select with one click the whole surface to aplicate "remember UV".

    You can turn off hidden edges afterwards under the View menu. But you can just select all and do the bending and restoring this way.

    Here is your (half) arch. You can mirror it to get a whole.


    Ah, by the way, when we are at Roman villas in Spain... I took part in a EU project that also involved one in Fuente Álamo (Puente Genil):
    http://www.h2g2.hu/peregrinus/sp/2.1.html


    UVmassimobeforebend.skp

    Gai...

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      thomthom
      last edited by 16 May 2012, 10:18

      You can use QuadFace tools: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=39442
      Check out the videos for how to UV map.

      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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        juanfernandez
        last edited by 16 May 2012, 18:33

        Thanks a lot, Gai and Thom. The slicing off did the job, now I can bend the bricks and builid archs in my La Olmeda model. How could we newbies do anything without you the masters?

        Gai, if it happens that you come to Spain to see Roman villas or whatever, drop me an email-hope that you, as moderator, can get my email. Please note I am in Palencia, with P (people get confused with Valencia, with V).

        Link Preview Image
        | Villa Romana La Olmeda

        La Villa Romana La Olmeda, es una gran mansión rural del Bajo Imperio (s. IV d.C.), cuyo edificio principal o pars urbana, es de planta cuadrada flanqueada por torres en cada esquina y se dispone en torno a un patio central y peristilo al que se abren las distintas dependencias. Esta villa palaciega abarca una extensión en superficie de 4400 m2 con un total de 35 habitaciones repartidas entre la vivienda principal y los baños, 26 de las cuales están decoradas con 1450 m2 de mosaicos polícromos conservados in situ. El conjunto fue declarado Bien de Interés Cultural el 3 de abril de 1996.

        favicon

        (www.villaromanalaolmeda.com)

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        Villa romana La Olmeda - Wikipedia, la enciclopedia libre

        favicon

        (es.wikipedia.org)

        (both in Spanish, sorry!)

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          Gaieus
          last edited by 17 May 2012, 03:33

          That's quite a villa indeed! 👍

          The first link did not work at all but the wikipedia page also exists in English: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Olmeda

          Gai...

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            juanfernandez
            last edited by 17 May 2012, 05:53

            The first link is OK, Gai. The web administrators, I don't know why, shut off their web sites by night, and turn on then early in the morning. It's a provincial institution-Diputación Provincial in spanish- and they have this weird way of publishing their web sites.

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              Gaieus
              last edited by 17 May 2012, 05:57

              Yes, I can see now... "Reconstrucción Virtual > Próximamente". Is this what you are working on?

              Gai...

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                juanfernandez
                last edited by 17 May 2012, 16:13

                No, I am a newbie, and cannot take that job by now. I am a teacher, we plan do educative software and documents related to the Olmeda Villa. My 3D model is may way to learn SU with a motivating subject. Perhaps in the future I will be able of making something worth of the Villa. 😉

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                  Gaieus
                  last edited by 18 May 2012, 10:16

                  Get me to do it then. I am an archaeologist, too. 😉

                  Gai...

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                    juanfernandez
                    last edited by 18 May 2012, 16:18

                    Ok, Gai, I'll take your word. ☀
                    When I became profficient enough in SU to do the job, I'll call you. I have to work hard in SU. Then they have to let me take photographies and measurements of the Villa. I think there will be no problem, because I am in very good relations with the Villa's provincial managers.

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                      marvins_dad
                      last edited by 27 Jun 2012, 20:09

                      Thanks guys! Thanks for the tutorial and the tools!
                      Just saved me with this huge arch for an addition, which matches a design done 10 years ago on the same building.

                      BTW - I didn't read past the initial steps since I didn't have any issues, but if you are matching an opening - make the height of the flat column of brick equal to the length of outer arc of the assembly. Did that make sense?


                      Arch-mustang.jpg

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                        Gaieus
                        last edited by 27 Jun 2012, 20:14

                        Nice arch! 👍

                        Of course, now we have Whaat's SketchUV Plugin (with tube mapping) which save even more time and head-ache...

                        @marvins_dad said:

                        BTW - I didn't read past the initial steps since I didn't have any issues, but if you are matching an opening - make the height of the flat column of brick equal to the length of outer arc of the assembly. Did that make sense?

                        I guess it all depends where you grab that column (inner or outer side) with Fredoscale.

                        Gai...

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                        • ziiarZ Offline
                          ziiar
                          last edited by 13 Jun 2013, 17:59

                          Is there a way to do this without the FredoScale plugin? I'm making a gothic arch like the one mentioned in the previous thread:

                          http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=37073&mode=view/rokbox.jpg

                          I assume this was modeled with the follow me tool, which is what I did do model it.

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                            thomthom
                            last edited by 14 Jun 2013, 07:58

                            This wasn't made with FredoScale nor the Follow me tool.

                            I drew the outline, then offset to make the inner hole. Then another offset to create the line in the middle. After that I selected the edges of the inner hole and moved it inwards.

                            hm... this is probably better suited with screenshots....

                            Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                              thomthom
                              last edited by 14 Jun 2013, 08:26

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                              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                Rich O Brien Moderator
                                last edited by 14 Jun 2013, 09:11

                                @Thom

                                What flashed up at the start?

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                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by 14 Jun 2013, 09:23

                                  @rich o brien said:

                                  What flashed up at the start?

                                  ❓

                                  Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                                  • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                                    last edited by 14 Jun 2013, 09:30

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                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by 14 Jun 2013, 09:55

                                      ah - I use shortcuts of often I don't even notice it. That's my tool to inspect face and edge normals: http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=21472#p180592

                                      Thomas Thomassen — SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • ziiarZ Offline
                                        ziiar
                                        last edited by 14 Jun 2013, 14:40

                                        Thanks thomthom! But I'm still not sure how to use the arcs as a perpendicular path for the textures like you did.

                                        http://sketchucation.com/forums/download/file.php?id=37072

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                                          Gaieus
                                          last edited by 14 Jun 2013, 16:40

                                          It's time to make some new tutorials based on newer plugins (or newer versions of plugins). I might put together something during the week-end.

                                          Gai...

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