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    • S Offline
      Shpox
      last edited by

      Hi guys. I'm after a bit of help with an organic spline shape I'm hoping to make into a window. I'm rendering in v-ray so I guess the edges don't really matter if they're triangulated but wondering if there's a tool to do this or an easy way out πŸ˜‰


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      • fuzzionF Offline
        fuzzion
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        Not sure what you really want but can use TGI3d plugin - mesh and for frame you could use 'tube along path' plugin

        Loop.jpg

        "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          Try Fredo's great CurviLoft
          http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?t=28586

          (Because the spline is not planar, is it?)

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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            Shpox
            last edited by

            Didn't have any luck with curviloft afaik. I've attached the .skp incase you wanted a quick look.


            Window.skp

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            • fuzzionF Offline
              fuzzion
              last edited by

              @shpox said:

              Didn't have any luck with curviloft afaik. I've attached the .skp incase you wanted a quick look.

              Enjoy your pringle chips πŸ˜‰


              Windowedit.skp

              "Only the dead have seen the end of war" - Plato

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                @shpox said:

                Didn't have any luck with curviloft afaik. I've attached the .skp incase you wanted a quick look.

                I see - didn't work for me either.

                I got something by using Sandbox Tools - From Countours. I had to rotate the shape 90 degrees to be parallel with the ground plane though.


                Window2.skp

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                  Shpox
                  last edited by

                  @fuzzion said:

                  @shpox said:

                  Didn't have any luck with curviloft afaik. I've attached the .skp incase you wanted a quick look.

                  Enjoy your pringle chips πŸ˜‰

                  El Delicouso! 😍 Did you manage this with TIG 3d? Have to save up for that one. I used cleanup on both yours and thom thoms models. Both work but his has less faces so might go with his πŸ˜‰ Will show you how the render turns out πŸ˜„

                  @thomthom said:

                  @shpox said:

                  Didn't have any luck with curviloft afaik. I've attached the .skp incase you wanted a quick look.

                  I see - didn't work for me either.

                  I got something by using Sandbox Tools - From Countours. I had to rotate the shape 90 degrees to be parallel with the ground plane though.

                  Genuis my man. Have to say, this is one of the best modelling communities I've been too. I've been working in max and it just isn't to same. I cannot get over the time factor and ease for sketchup. Thanks for the support πŸ˜„

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                  • brookefoxB Offline
                    brookefox
                    last edited by

                    Uh, why does sandbox from contours work here? I tried it myself and it did, but I thought contours were by definition at the same elevation, not warped through Z as this shape is, either vertically or laid flat, where SFC works.


                    warped window-1.JPG

                    ~ Brooke

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                    • thomthomT Offline
                      thomthom
                      last edited by

                      Sandbox from Contours makes a point cloud from all the vertices in the selection and triangulates that. It does not adhere to the edges. You can see that when you feed it contours from a steep terrain and there's few vertices, the generated geometry will often create faces that intersects the contour edges.

                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        some other solutions
                        Bezier Splines
                        Ferrari
                        With Ferrari the PushPull Multiple can maybe problematic due the number of triangles!
                        It's more for a no coplanar closed curve! (tensile surface)

                        ferrari01.jpg

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • brookefoxB Offline
                          brookefox
                          last edited by

                          Thanks for the explanation. A case where the tool is more capable than the description? Certainly something like yours should be a part of the description, at least for me, if they would like to personalize it.

                          @thomthom said:

                          Sandbox from Contours makes a point cloud from all the vertices in the selection and triangulates that. It does not adhere to the edges. You can see that when you feed it contours from a steep terrain and there's few vertices, the generated geometry will often create faces that intersects the contour edges.

                          Thanks, Pilou. I will try those also.

                          ~ Brooke

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                          • Rich O BrienR Offline
                            Rich O Brien Moderator
                            last edited by

                            I think Pilou used Ferrari to skin the loop

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                            • brookefoxB Offline
                              brookefox
                              last edited by

                              Help us out here, Pilou, re: fredo6 BZ. Did you re-draw it or transform it or what? If I convert it to classic I have no option to face it (and I get a slightly different curve). (I know there are two sets of icons; interestingly my Cadfather set does not show a what looks like a facing option (for 'dogbone' or 'tbone') which the standard set has.)

                              bezier spline Fredo6-1.JPG

                              For that matter, please help with the ferrari plug as well. I used it once wit the default settings and the curve as drawn and I got something seemingly useless. I undid all the way but the tool was inactive.

                              ~ Brooke

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                              • brookefoxB Offline
                                brookefox
                                last edited by

                                @rich o brien said:

                                I think Pilou used Ferrari to skin the loop

                                OK, thanks, Rich. I'm hoping he'll wander back here to fill in the gaps.

                                OK, Ferrari, too performs differently on the flat, and seems to have some quirks, but it did do a nice job with default settings on the flat.

                                bezier spline Ferrari-2.JPG

                                ~ Brooke

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                                • EarthMoverE Offline
                                  EarthMover
                                  last edited by

                                  Soap Skin & Bubble works perfectly with the orientation as drawn. (Just skin, no bubble) Quick follow me to make the frame and Joint Push Pull to create the pane depth.


                                  WindowSSB.jpg

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                                  • brookefoxB Offline
                                    brookefox
                                    last edited by

                                    Neat. Looks good.

                                    "Is it double-paned?" said the horse's ass.

                                    ~ Brooke

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      So many ways to skin a cat. πŸ˜„

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                                      • pilouP Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by

                                        @Brooke

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Did you re-draw it or transform it or what?

                                        Sorry I had token the F-Spline of Fredo6, draw it and close it before the last click with F9
                                        So Surface is automatically created! 😎

                                        That was for the left drawing πŸ˜„

                                        For the right drawing, I Copy Move only the curve (F-Splined) and calculate the surface with Ferrari! πŸ˜‰
                                        That was very different methods πŸ˜„

                                        But there are again a mystery, how see the hidden lines of the surface of the F-Spline of Fredo6 method 😲
                                        We can see sides by a push pull but the "top" surface ? (Maybe a future DOh ? )

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

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                                        • gillesG Offline
                                          gilles
                                          last edited by

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          But there are again a mystery, how see the hidden lines of the surface of the F-Spline of Fredo6 method
                                          We can see sides by a push pull but the "top" surface ? (Maybe a future DOh ? )

                                          Isn't it a plane face?

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            yes πŸ˜„

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                                            My Little site :)

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