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    • C Offline
      ColinMcCole
      last edited by

      Hi...Can someone PLEASE help me?!?!?! I can't get a large number of plugins to work on my work PC for some reason. I've installed them all on my home PC without any problems, but i just can't install anything smoothly on my work PC. If they do manage to install, the icons are invisible in SKB (which isn't a major problem). I really just want to get the Curviloft tools on my PC at this stage. I've tried installing the plugins on SKB 6, 7, 7 pro and 8 and not one of them was successful?!?!?! I have Fredo 4.2 and all of the latest (as well as the old) plugins, but none of them work...and I've uninstalled and re installed SKB several times, i've turned on all extensions in the preferences dialog box, i've installed everything into the tools folder as well just in case...i have actually tried everything to my knowledge. Has someone had the same problems and figured it out?! Any help will be greatly appreciated.

      Thanks,

      Cole

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
        last edited by

        Well, first You should clean up the Tools folder by removing the files you installed there. Next, make and post a screenshot of the Plugins folder so we can see how your plugins are installed.

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          ColinMcCole
          last edited by

          @gaieus said:

          Youi need to put your knife inside that component. The intersection lines are always created in the editing context you are in so if you do the intersection outside, it won't affect geometry inside.

          Triple click on your knife and press Ctl+X to cut it onto the clipboard. The edit the component and under the Edit menu, find an item called "Paste in place". Now intersect.

          Hi Gaieus. I was wondering if you had any tips on my problem posted below. I'm desperate to get this plugin loaded at the moment and can't get anything to work?!?!

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          • GaieusG Offline
            Gaieus
            last edited by

            Well, if you really messed up your SU install that much, I would suggest uninstalling, deleting the whole directory (you can keep the materials and components folders if you have extra stuff there) and installing again.

            Then do something with your permissions (I am not on Vista so do not exactly know) but unless you somehow figure it out how not to do that, Vista won't put the plugin files to where you want but in some compatibility folder.

            Gai...

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              ColinMcCole
              last edited by

              @dave r said:

              Well, first You should clean up the Tools folder by removing the files you installed there. Next, make and post a screenshot of the Plugins folder so we can see how your plugins are installed.

              Hi Dave.

              Thanks for your feedback. I hadn't installed anything into my tools in this version of SKB, i just tried the plugins this time around. How do i attach an image to this post? My folder literally just has the standard plugin folders and rb's, as well as the folders named "Curviloft_DIR_12" and "LIBFREDO06_DIR_42", and the LIBFREDO6.rb script. The Fredo rb loads and i get the image on start up about updates, but nothing else shows. When i extract the rb scripts and place them in the actual plugins folder then SKB tells me there's errors loading all the files. I assume i'm doing something wrong here...

              I really want this plugin...i've been waiting ages for something like this and now i can't use the tools?! It looks awesome and will make life so much easier if i can get everything working.

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              • GaieusG Offline
                Gaieus
                last edited by

                Did you unzip those zip files into the plugins folder?

                Under the text area you are posting, there is an attachment tab.

                Gai...

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                  ColinMcCole
                  last edited by

                  @gaieus said:

                  Did you unzip those zip files into the plugins folder?

                  Under the text area you are posting, there is an attachment tab.

                  OK, so i got it to work on Sketchup 8...still can't get it on 7 pro (maybe it's not compatible?!). I unzipped them and did everything i usually do (i did with my home PC with no problems at all). I think i'll just bounce between the two Sketchup versions as i've spent enough time getting it to work. Thanks for the speedy responses, this site really is awesome.

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    Sorry, I was in transit to work. Glad Csaba got you sorted. The plugin is compatible with V7 so it should work. Since it isn't, I would suggest you look again at the install. Or, since it works now on V8, rename the V7 Plugins folder to something like Original Plugins so SU won't look at it when it starts. Then copy your V8 plugins folder and paste it into the V7 location. See what happens when you restart SU7.

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                      benha
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                      Howdy.

                      I'm having a bit of trouble and would appreciate suggestions. I'm trying to skin a pair of surfaces and the curviloft tool isn't working.

                      I haven't had that problem before - anyone care to suggest why the two wireframes in the attached file won't skin?

                      To clarify: This is supposed to be two parallel surfaces, offset by a small gap. The two closed hoops are what I'm trying to skin.

                      Back Contour.skp

                      -Ben

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                      • TIGT Offline
                        TIG Moderator
                        last edited by

                        Benha

                        Try to weld[.rb] the two loops into curves [loops].
                        Try scaling it up x10 to avoid tiny edges/facets issues [scale down after skinning].
                        You will find one loop had a minuscule edge off perpendicular that's not needed - erase that and re-weld the rest...
                        Then it should skin OK...

                        TIG

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                          benha
                          last edited by

                          Hrm...

                          Still not working:
                          Found and removed a stray edge
                          Scaled up by 10x
                          Welded curves together
                          Same failure state

                          Revised file attached. Still baffled.

                          Back Contour.skp

                          @tig said:

                          Benha

                          Try to weld[.rb] the two loops into curves [loops].
                          Try scaling it up x10 to avoid tiny edges/facets issues [scale down after skinning].
                          You will find one loop had a minuscule edge off perpendicular that's not needed - erase that and re-weld the rest...
                          Then it should skin OK...

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
                            last edited by

                            Works fine here using Loft by Spline


                            Back%20Contour.skp

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                              benha
                              last edited by

                              Sorry. Must not have been clear. Wrong way. I'm trying to loft the two surfaces bounded by the loops, not the space between them.

                              @dave r said:

                              Works fine here using Loft by Spline

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                              • Dave RD Offline
                                Dave R
                                last edited by

                                I see. The two sets of curves are a red herring. ๐Ÿ˜„

                                I wonder if you might be better off with a different tool for what you want to do.

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                                  benha
                                  last edited by

                                  What's weird is that I originally skinned something exactly like this. And now I'm trying to reconstruct it. And it's not working... ๐Ÿ˜•

                                  @dave r said:

                                  I see. The two sets of curves are a red herring. ๐Ÿ˜„

                                  I wonder if you might be better off with a different tool for what you want to do.

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                                  • fredo6F Offline
                                    fredo6
                                    last edited by

                                    @benha said:

                                    Hrm...

                                    Still not working:
                                    Found and removed a stray edge
                                    Scaled up by 10x
                                    Welded curves together
                                    Same failure state

                                    Revised file attached. Still baffled.

                                    The contour is made of a single curve with no sharp angle. Curviloft Skinning does not know where to cut the contour in 4 pieces. In such cases, you simply need to draw dummay segments, for instances at the corners.
                                    Skin contour - dummay segments.png

                                    Then, you select each of the 4 portions (click on it, then click in empty space).

                                    And you apply skinning.
                                    Skin contour.png

                                    Fredo

                                    PS: I also suggest you simplify a bit the contour to have a more regular spacing of the vertices, and thus obtain a more balanced mesh

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                                      benha
                                      last edited by

                                      Argh. Still not working.

                                      I added dummy segments, and now when I enter the skinning tool it does take four clicks to select everything. The sections break at the dummy segments. So that's progress.

                                      But when I "click to validate" the contour just turns purple and nothing happens.

                                      Might this be related to the fact that I'm on a Mac?

                                      -Ben

                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      The contour is made of a single curve with no sharp angle. Curviloft Skinning does not know where to cut the contour in 4 pieces. In such cases, you simply need to draw dummay segments, for instances at the corners.
                                      [attachment=1:1fqlcg7n]<!-- ia1 -->Skin contour - dummay segments.png<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:1fqlcg7n]

                                      Then, you select each of the 4 portions (click on it, then click in empty space).

                                      And you apply skinning.
                                      [attachment=0:1fqlcg7n]<!-- ia0 -->Skin contour.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1fqlcg7n]

                                      Fredo

                                      PS: I also suggest you simplify a bit the contour to have a more regular spacing of the vertices, and thus obtain a more balanced mesh

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                                      • fredo6F Offline
                                        fredo6
                                        last edited by

                                        Your dummy segments may not be well placed (note that the contour curve is placed exactly on top of the group which forms the border surface)
                                        In any case, you can first select the contours and dummy segments, and then call Curviloft Skinning.
                                        Also, if you explode that group, you'll be more confortable
                                        It works for me

                                        Fredo

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                                          benha
                                          last edited by

                                          Thanks for the help. Still can't make it work, but I think it's time to give up and call it a day.

                                          I'm guessing it's something unique to my machine/configuration or whatever. I've tried about 20 different approaches / placements of dummy segments / etc and it never works. Very odd.

                                          Anyway, thanks again.

                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          Your dummy segments may not be well placed (note that the contour curve is placed exactly on top of the group which forms the border surface)
                                          In any case, you can first select the contours and dummy segments, and then call Curviloft Skinning.
                                          Also, if you explode that group, you'll be more confortable
                                          It works for me

                                          Fredo

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                                          • fredo6F Offline
                                            fredo6
                                            last edited by

                                            @benha said:

                                            Thanks for the help. Still can't make it work, but I think it's time to give up and call it a day.

                                            Here is the model with the Skinning, if this can help you to progress
                                            Back%20Contour.skp

                                            Fredo

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