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    [Plugin][$] Curviloft 2.0a - 31 Mar 24 (Loft & Skinning)

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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
      last edited by

      Well, first You should clean up the Tools folder by removing the files you installed there. Next, make and post a screenshot of the Plugins folder so we can see how your plugins are installed.

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      • C Offline
        ColinMcCole
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        @gaieus said:

        Youi need to put your knife inside that component. The intersection lines are always created in the editing context you are in so if you do the intersection outside, it won't affect geometry inside.

        Triple click on your knife and press Ctl+X to cut it onto the clipboard. The edit the component and under the Edit menu, find an item called "Paste in place". Now intersect.

        Hi Gaieus. I was wondering if you had any tips on my problem posted below. I'm desperate to get this plugin loaded at the moment and can't get anything to work?!?!

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
          last edited by

          Well, if you really messed up your SU install that much, I would suggest uninstalling, deleting the whole directory (you can keep the materials and components folders if you have extra stuff there) and installing again.

          Then do something with your permissions (I am not on Vista so do not exactly know) but unless you somehow figure it out how not to do that, Vista won't put the plugin files to where you want but in some compatibility folder.

          Gai...

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          • C Offline
            ColinMcCole
            last edited by

            @dave r said:

            Well, first You should clean up the Tools folder by removing the files you installed there. Next, make and post a screenshot of the Plugins folder so we can see how your plugins are installed.

            Hi Dave.

            Thanks for your feedback. I hadn't installed anything into my tools in this version of SKB, i just tried the plugins this time around. How do i attach an image to this post? My folder literally just has the standard plugin folders and rb's, as well as the folders named "Curviloft_DIR_12" and "LIBFREDO06_DIR_42", and the LIBFREDO6.rb script. The Fredo rb loads and i get the image on start up about updates, but nothing else shows. When i extract the rb scripts and place them in the actual plugins folder then SKB tells me there's errors loading all the files. I assume i'm doing something wrong here...

            I really want this plugin...i've been waiting ages for something like this and now i can't use the tools?! It looks awesome and will make life so much easier if i can get everything working.

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            • GaieusG Offline
              Gaieus
              last edited by

              Did you unzip those zip files into the plugins folder?

              Under the text area you are posting, there is an attachment tab.

              Gai...

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              • C Offline
                ColinMcCole
                last edited by

                @gaieus said:

                Did you unzip those zip files into the plugins folder?

                Under the text area you are posting, there is an attachment tab.

                OK, so i got it to work on Sketchup 8...still can't get it on 7 pro (maybe it's not compatible?!). I unzipped them and did everything i usually do (i did with my home PC with no problems at all). I think i'll just bounce between the two Sketchup versions as i've spent enough time getting it to work. Thanks for the speedy responses, this site really is awesome.

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  Sorry, I was in transit to work. Glad Csaba got you sorted. The plugin is compatible with V7 so it should work. Since it isn't, I would suggest you look again at the install. Or, since it works now on V8, rename the V7 Plugins folder to something like Original Plugins so SU won't look at it when it starts. Then copy your V8 plugins folder and paste it into the V7 location. See what happens when you restart SU7.

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                  • B Offline
                    benha
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                    Howdy.

                    I'm having a bit of trouble and would appreciate suggestions. I'm trying to skin a pair of surfaces and the curviloft tool isn't working.

                    I haven't had that problem before - anyone care to suggest why the two wireframes in the attached file won't skin?

                    To clarify: This is supposed to be two parallel surfaces, offset by a small gap. The two closed hoops are what I'm trying to skin.

                    Back Contour.skp

                    -Ben

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
                      last edited by

                      Benha

                      Try to weld[.rb] the two loops into curves [loops].
                      Try scaling it up x10 to avoid tiny edges/facets issues [scale down after skinning].
                      You will find one loop had a minuscule edge off perpendicular that's not needed - erase that and re-weld the rest...
                      Then it should skin OK...

                      TIG

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                        benha
                        last edited by

                        Hrm...

                        Still not working:
                        Found and removed a stray edge
                        Scaled up by 10x
                        Welded curves together
                        Same failure state

                        Revised file attached. Still baffled.

                        Back Contour.skp

                        @tig said:

                        Benha

                        Try to weld[.rb] the two loops into curves [loops].
                        Try scaling it up x10 to avoid tiny edges/facets issues [scale down after skinning].
                        You will find one loop had a minuscule edge off perpendicular that's not needed - erase that and re-weld the rest...
                        Then it should skin OK...

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                        • Dave RD Offline
                          Dave R
                          last edited by

                          Works fine here using Loft by Spline


                          Back%20Contour.skp

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                          • B Offline
                            benha
                            last edited by

                            Sorry. Must not have been clear. Wrong way. I'm trying to loft the two surfaces bounded by the loops, not the space between them.

                            @dave r said:

                            Works fine here using Loft by Spline

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              I see. The two sets of curves are a red herring. ๐Ÿ˜„

                              I wonder if you might be better off with a different tool for what you want to do.

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                                benha
                                last edited by

                                What's weird is that I originally skinned something exactly like this. And now I'm trying to reconstruct it. And it's not working... ๐Ÿ˜•

                                @dave r said:

                                I see. The two sets of curves are a red herring. ๐Ÿ˜„

                                I wonder if you might be better off with a different tool for what you want to do.

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                                • fredo6F Offline
                                  fredo6
                                  last edited by

                                  @benha said:

                                  Hrm...

                                  Still not working:
                                  Found and removed a stray edge
                                  Scaled up by 10x
                                  Welded curves together
                                  Same failure state

                                  Revised file attached. Still baffled.

                                  The contour is made of a single curve with no sharp angle. Curviloft Skinning does not know where to cut the contour in 4 pieces. In such cases, you simply need to draw dummay segments, for instances at the corners.
                                  Skin contour - dummay segments.png

                                  Then, you select each of the 4 portions (click on it, then click in empty space).

                                  And you apply skinning.
                                  Skin contour.png

                                  Fredo

                                  PS: I also suggest you simplify a bit the contour to have a more regular spacing of the vertices, and thus obtain a more balanced mesh

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                                    benha
                                    last edited by

                                    Argh. Still not working.

                                    I added dummy segments, and now when I enter the skinning tool it does take four clicks to select everything. The sections break at the dummy segments. So that's progress.

                                    But when I "click to validate" the contour just turns purple and nothing happens.

                                    Might this be related to the fact that I'm on a Mac?

                                    -Ben

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    The contour is made of a single curve with no sharp angle. Curviloft Skinning does not know where to cut the contour in 4 pieces. In such cases, you simply need to draw dummay segments, for instances at the corners.
                                    [attachment=1:1fqlcg7n]<!-- ia1 -->Skin contour - dummay segments.png<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:1fqlcg7n]

                                    Then, you select each of the 4 portions (click on it, then click in empty space).

                                    And you apply skinning.
                                    [attachment=0:1fqlcg7n]<!-- ia0 -->Skin contour.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1fqlcg7n]

                                    Fredo

                                    PS: I also suggest you simplify a bit the contour to have a more regular spacing of the vertices, and thus obtain a more balanced mesh

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                                    • fredo6F Offline
                                      fredo6
                                      last edited by

                                      Your dummy segments may not be well placed (note that the contour curve is placed exactly on top of the group which forms the border surface)
                                      In any case, you can first select the contours and dummy segments, and then call Curviloft Skinning.
                                      Also, if you explode that group, you'll be more confortable
                                      It works for me

                                      Fredo

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                                      • B Offline
                                        benha
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks for the help. Still can't make it work, but I think it's time to give up and call it a day.

                                        I'm guessing it's something unique to my machine/configuration or whatever. I've tried about 20 different approaches / placements of dummy segments / etc and it never works. Very odd.

                                        Anyway, thanks again.

                                        @unknownuser said:

                                        Your dummy segments may not be well placed (note that the contour curve is placed exactly on top of the group which forms the border surface)
                                        In any case, you can first select the contours and dummy segments, and then call Curviloft Skinning.
                                        Also, if you explode that group, you'll be more confortable
                                        It works for me

                                        Fredo

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                                        • fredo6F Offline
                                          fredo6
                                          last edited by

                                          @benha said:

                                          Thanks for the help. Still can't make it work, but I think it's time to give up and call it a day.

                                          Here is the model with the Skinning, if this can help you to progress
                                          Back%20Contour.skp

                                          Fredo

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                                          • B Offline
                                            benha
                                            last edited by

                                            Ah! You're a star. Thanks a TON!

                                            Here is the model with the Skinning, if this can help you to progress
                                            [attachment=0:1m74sant]<!-- ia0 -->Back%20Contour.skp<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1m74sant]

                                            Fredo[/quote]

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