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    [Plugin][$] Curviloft 2.0a - 31 Mar 24 (Loft & Skinning)

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    • C Offline
      cupke79
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      πŸ‘ πŸ‘ πŸ‘ thanx,,, its work i love u all

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        benha
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        First off, THANK YOU. This is my favorite plugin ever. Awesome stuff.

        I have a question though. I have skinned a surface, creating a compound curve.

        I decided I wanted to "trim" the edge of the curve without starting over. To do this I moved away from the surface, used curviloft to create a second curved surface perpendicular to the original surface, and then moved it to intersect the original surface where I wanted to clip it.

        I then highlighted both surfaces and performed an "intersect with selected."

        A line showed up indicating that the intersection made sense to SU, but when I started trying to delete the portion I didn't want anymore the the surface clearly hadn't been parted at the intersection. The skin was being deleted on both sides of the line.

        I've tried this several different ways, always with the same result.

        Thoughts? Help?

        Because this may be hard to visualize, I've attached a demo file. Basically I want to cut the layer called "target" using the layer called "knife."

        I haven't done the intersections or anything yet because I wanted to give a pristine look at where I'm starting.

        Thanks!
        -Ben


        DemoFile.skp

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        • GaieusG Offline
          Gaieus
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          Youi need to put your knife inside that component. The intersection lines are always created in the editing context you are in so if you do the intersection outside, it won't affect geometry inside.

          Triple click on your knife and press Ctl+X to cut it onto the clipboard. The edit the component and under the Edit menu, find an item called "Paste in place". Now intersect.

          Gai...

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            benha
            last edited by

            AWESOME.

            Thanks.

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              ColinMcCole
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              Hi...Can someone PLEASE help me?!?!?! I can't get a large number of plugins to work on my work PC for some reason. I've installed them all on my home PC without any problems, but i just can't install anything smoothly on my work PC. If they do manage to install, the icons are invisible in SKB (which isn't a major problem). I really just want to get the Curviloft tools on my PC at this stage. I've tried installing the plugins on SKB 6, 7, 7 pro and 8 and not one of them was successful?!?!?! I have Fredo 4.2 and all of the latest (as well as the old) plugins, but none of them work...and I've uninstalled and re installed SKB several times, i've turned on all extensions in the preferences dialog box, i've installed everything into the tools folder as well just in case...i have actually tried everything to my knowledge. Has someone had the same problems and figured it out?! Any help will be greatly appreciated.

              Thanks,

              Cole

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
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                Well, first You should clean up the Tools folder by removing the files you installed there. Next, make and post a screenshot of the Plugins folder so we can see how your plugins are installed.

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                  ColinMcCole
                  last edited by

                  @gaieus said:

                  Youi need to put your knife inside that component. The intersection lines are always created in the editing context you are in so if you do the intersection outside, it won't affect geometry inside.

                  Triple click on your knife and press Ctl+X to cut it onto the clipboard. The edit the component and under the Edit menu, find an item called "Paste in place". Now intersect.

                  Hi Gaieus. I was wondering if you had any tips on my problem posted below. I'm desperate to get this plugin loaded at the moment and can't get anything to work?!?!

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
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                    Well, if you really messed up your SU install that much, I would suggest uninstalling, deleting the whole directory (you can keep the materials and components folders if you have extra stuff there) and installing again.

                    Then do something with your permissions (I am not on Vista so do not exactly know) but unless you somehow figure it out how not to do that, Vista won't put the plugin files to where you want but in some compatibility folder.

                    Gai...

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                      ColinMcCole
                      last edited by

                      @dave r said:

                      Well, first You should clean up the Tools folder by removing the files you installed there. Next, make and post a screenshot of the Plugins folder so we can see how your plugins are installed.

                      Hi Dave.

                      Thanks for your feedback. I hadn't installed anything into my tools in this version of SKB, i just tried the plugins this time around. How do i attach an image to this post? My folder literally just has the standard plugin folders and rb's, as well as the folders named "Curviloft_DIR_12" and "LIBFREDO06_DIR_42", and the LIBFREDO6.rb script. The Fredo rb loads and i get the image on start up about updates, but nothing else shows. When i extract the rb scripts and place them in the actual plugins folder then SKB tells me there's errors loading all the files. I assume i'm doing something wrong here...

                      I really want this plugin...i've been waiting ages for something like this and now i can't use the tools?! It looks awesome and will make life so much easier if i can get everything working.

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
                        last edited by

                        Did you unzip those zip files into the plugins folder?

                        Under the text area you are posting, there is an attachment tab.

                        Gai...

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                          ColinMcCole
                          last edited by

                          @gaieus said:

                          Did you unzip those zip files into the plugins folder?

                          Under the text area you are posting, there is an attachment tab.

                          OK, so i got it to work on Sketchup 8...still can't get it on 7 pro (maybe it's not compatible?!). I unzipped them and did everything i usually do (i did with my home PC with no problems at all). I think i'll just bounce between the two Sketchup versions as i've spent enough time getting it to work. Thanks for the speedy responses, this site really is awesome.

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                          • Dave RD Offline
                            Dave R
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                            Sorry, I was in transit to work. Glad Csaba got you sorted. The plugin is compatible with V7 so it should work. Since it isn't, I would suggest you look again at the install. Or, since it works now on V8, rename the V7 Plugins folder to something like Original Plugins so SU won't look at it when it starts. Then copy your V8 plugins folder and paste it into the V7 location. See what happens when you restart SU7.

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                              benha
                              last edited by

                              Howdy.

                              I'm having a bit of trouble and would appreciate suggestions. I'm trying to skin a pair of surfaces and the curviloft tool isn't working.

                              I haven't had that problem before - anyone care to suggest why the two wireframes in the attached file won't skin?

                              To clarify: This is supposed to be two parallel surfaces, offset by a small gap. The two closed hoops are what I'm trying to skin.

                              Back Contour.skp

                              -Ben

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                Benha

                                Try to weld[.rb] the two loops into curves [loops].
                                Try scaling it up x10 to avoid tiny edges/facets issues [scale down after skinning].
                                You will find one loop had a minuscule edge off perpendicular that's not needed - erase that and re-weld the rest...
                                Then it should skin OK...

                                TIG

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                                  benha
                                  last edited by

                                  Hrm...

                                  Still not working:
                                  Found and removed a stray edge
                                  Scaled up by 10x
                                  Welded curves together
                                  Same failure state

                                  Revised file attached. Still baffled.

                                  Back Contour.skp

                                  @tig said:

                                  Benha

                                  Try to weld[.rb] the two loops into curves [loops].
                                  Try scaling it up x10 to avoid tiny edges/facets issues [scale down after skinning].
                                  You will find one loop had a minuscule edge off perpendicular that's not needed - erase that and re-weld the rest...
                                  Then it should skin OK...

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by

                                    Works fine here using Loft by Spline


                                    Back%20Contour.skp

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                                      benha
                                      last edited by

                                      Sorry. Must not have been clear. Wrong way. I'm trying to loft the two surfaces bounded by the loops, not the space between them.

                                      @dave r said:

                                      Works fine here using Loft by Spline

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                                      • Dave RD Offline
                                        Dave R
                                        last edited by

                                        I see. The two sets of curves are a red herring. πŸ˜„

                                        I wonder if you might be better off with a different tool for what you want to do.

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                                          benha
                                          last edited by

                                          What's weird is that I originally skinned something exactly like this. And now I'm trying to reconstruct it. And it's not working... πŸ˜•

                                          @dave r said:

                                          I see. The two sets of curves are a red herring. πŸ˜„

                                          I wonder if you might be better off with a different tool for what you want to do.

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                                          • fredo6F Offline
                                            fredo6
                                            last edited by

                                            @benha said:

                                            Hrm...

                                            Still not working:
                                            Found and removed a stray edge
                                            Scaled up by 10x
                                            Welded curves together
                                            Same failure state

                                            Revised file attached. Still baffled.

                                            The contour is made of a single curve with no sharp angle. Curviloft Skinning does not know where to cut the contour in 4 pieces. In such cases, you simply need to draw dummay segments, for instances at the corners.
                                            Skin contour - dummay segments.png

                                            Then, you select each of the 4 portions (click on it, then click in empty space).

                                            And you apply skinning.
                                            Skin contour.png

                                            Fredo

                                            PS: I also suggest you simplify a bit the contour to have a more regular spacing of the vertices, and thus obtain a more balanced mesh

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