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    • leedeeteeL Offline
      leedeetee
      last edited by

      @arcad-uk said:

      Is this at work or home?

      For someone to help it might be useful if you posted your machine specs, OS and graphics card details for the problem machine.

      This is at work, sorry. πŸ˜„


      pc spec

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      • leedeeteeL Offline
        leedeetee
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        @thomthom said:

        I've had this problem as well. In my case it turned out that the registry settings for my toolbars had been messed up so there was thousands of toolbar registry entries - all invalid. Just junk data.

        Are you familiar with the registry?

        If you are, can you have a look in the registry and see how many Toolbar related entries you got?
        HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Google\SketchUp8\

        Not really, no. 😳 Is it tricky to view?

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
          last edited by

          Here's the thread on my issue: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=180&t=23343

          If you're not comfortable with the registry I can't really recommend you mess about with it. You can seriously mess up the system if you don't know exactly where you are.

          You don't have anyone who might be more familiar? IT manager?

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • Rich O BrienR Offline
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            This happens to me also but i aint messing in there. Not unless my hand is held

            Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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            • leedeeteeL Offline
              leedeetee
              last edited by

              Just had a look at the registry - not touched anything though! ... And as you say, there are hundreds (thousands) of toolbar entries ...

              Toolbars-BarXXXX ToolbarsUser-BarXXXX ToolbarsUserCustom-BarXXXX

              P.s. I trust myself more than the IT manager to be pefectly honest!

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              • thomthomT Offline
                thomthom
                last edited by

                What's the highest number for ToolbarsUser-BarXXXX that you find?

                Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                • thomthomT Offline
                  thomthom
                  last edited by

                  Use at Own Risk!!!
                  This is a couple of batch commands I use to clear the toolbar registry. It has worked for me - but I put a word of caution anyway; use at own risk.

                  Activate the one corresponding to your SketchUp version.


                  Bat files to reset SketchUp 7 & 8 toolbar registry items. USE AT OWN RISK!!!

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
                    last edited by

                    @leedeetee said:

                    P.s. I trust myself more than the IT manager to be pefectly honest!

                    πŸ˜†

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • leedeeteeL Offline
                      leedeetee
                      last edited by

                      @thomthom said:

                      What's the highest number for ToolbarsUser-BarXXXX that you find?

                      ToolbarsUser-Bar 1852 is the highest I can find.

                      Thanks for helping me. I'm going to back up the registry (via CCleaner) and give them batch commands a whirl. Thanks again.

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                      • leedeeteeL Offline
                        leedeetee
                        last edited by

                        Thanks Thom, it appears better than it was. There were 3990 toolbars in registry that the batch command removed!

                        It still seems to be unstable though. Especially if I have two instances of SU running - still keeps minimising when it's thinking and saying 'not responding'. 😳

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                        • leedeeteeL Offline
                          leedeetee
                          last edited by

                          Hmmm, all those toolbar instances reappeared in the regstry after a re-boot. 😞

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            I think you'll find that a lot of them are under 'Toolbar-' with the same 'BarID'... and the bat file doesn't do anything to those... I suspect these are to do with saving the toolbar settings in v8... I have in the past saved the registry [.reg] - keeping a backup copy - and manually edited the file to remove such duplicate entries [which can run into hundreds]... then erased the whole registry and reinstalled it by running the edited .reg... This combined with thomthom's bat [I have a similar cmd file] will purge the registry of all of this unneeded toolbar dross and it will speed up the launch of a SKP. However, don't try manually editing a reg file unless you are sure you won't screw up - AND keep a backup copy of the original for when you do !!
                            πŸ€“

                            TIG

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
                              last edited by

                              Thomthom, does your BAT file only delete duplicate toolbar registry entries or does it clear them all?

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                              • TIGT Offline
                                TIG Moderator
                                last edited by

                                It removes all of the user/custom toolbar entries so you have a blank slate to restart from.
                                However, as I explained there can be a lot of duplicated toolbar- entries too - I manually remove those...

                                TIG

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                                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                                  last edited by

                                  I can't even find this place. I end up opening my browser πŸ˜’

                                  I know if I mess around I'll break it so I'll stock with the flickering πŸ‘

                                  Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                  • Dave RD Offline
                                    Dave R
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks TIG.

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      I've only run into this while debugging plugin development where I experienced plugin errors upon startup that messed up the loading of toolbars and caused lots of stale data.

                                      It's very odd that all your entries comes back...

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • thomthomT Offline
                                        thomthom
                                        last edited by

                                        @tig said:

                                        However, as I explained there can be a lot of duplicated toolbar- entries too - I manually remove those...

                                        What? Another set of entries? I'm confused to which one you refer to... ❓

                                        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                        • TIGT Offline
                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by

                                          @thomthom said:

                                          @tig said:

                                          However, as I explained there can be a lot of duplicated toolbar- entries too - I manually remove those...

                                          What? Another set of entries? I'm confused to which one you refer to... ❓

                                          The 'ToolbarsUser' that your bat file finds, excludes all of the many 'Toolbars' entries - many of which can have duplicated BarIDs [resulting from multiple savings of the toolbar settings?], which also seems to slow everything down...Capture.JPG

                                          TIG

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                                          • thomthomT Offline
                                            thomthom
                                            last edited by

                                            I'm not seeing those kind of entries at all... πŸ˜•

                                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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