[Plugin] Cloud

thomthom

They changed the units options hash between 7.0 and 7.1

!!! ?
What? that has not been documented anywhere - has it?

Didier Bur

Hi,

v6: length unit is: Sketchup.active_model.options[0][2]
v7.0 length unit is: Sketchup.active_model.options[0][2]
v 7.1. length unit is: Sketchup.active_model.options[3][2]

Am I right ?

thomthom

oh, you meant the array index - I thought the hash key had changed:

` Sketchup.active_model.options.keys.each {|key| p key; Sketchup.active_model.options[key].each {|k,v| puts "> #{k} - #{v}"} }
"PageOptions"

ShowTransition - false
TransitionTime - 2.0
"SlideshowOptions"
LoopSlideshow - true
SlideTime - 1.0
"NamedOptions"
"UnitsOptions"
LengthPrecision - 0
LengthFormat - 0
LengthUnit - 2
LengthSnapEnabled - false
LengthSnapLength - 0.0393700787401575
AnglePrecision - 1
AngleSnapEnabled - true
SnapAngle - 15.0
SuppressUnitsDisplay - false
ForceInchDisplay - false
"PrintOptions"
PrintWidth - 7.0
PrintHeight - 5.0
ComputeSizeFromScale - false
SizeInPrint - 1.0
SizeInModel - 307.906005859375
VectorMode - false
FitToPage - true
NumberOfPages - 1
LineWeight - 0.5
PixelsPerInch - 150.0
SectionSlice - false
ModelExtents - false
PrintQuality - 3
ScaleAdjustment - 1.0
QualityAdjustment - 0.5
["PageOptions", "SlideshowOptions", "NamedOptions", "UnitsOptions", "PrintOptions"]`

This is the same in all versions?

TIG

You shouldn't hard-code the units items like that [or any other option for that matter] - because the order can change with each build - instead use model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthUnit"] that will work no matter what

Didier Bur

@unknownuser said:

use model.options["UnitsOptions"]["LengthUnit"] that will work no matter what

Of course ! I don't know why I didn't though of that before...

Bug fixed, new version available, same place.

mozzie

Thanks for the fix ... it is no longer necessry but result is;

Sketchup.active_model.options[0][2]
nil

for 7.1

thomthom

There are four Cloud threads - can we clean these up please?
For instance;
Removing the download for the old ones,
Replacing [Plugin] with [Obsolete]
Add a link to the new version
Then finally lock the old ones?

When I was looking at the plugin index it was confusing to what was the latest version.

thomthom

@unknownuser said:

Difficult to keep track of what's new, some topics contain plugins but not the [Plugin] prefix, other topics are posted as questions and then a plugin is added but the first post not renamed with the prefix, etc.

Yea - we should do a cleanup of all these - have them reposted fresh and remove any outdated version.

JGA

Thanks very much for providing this plugin, we've recently invested in a Total Station & this translates the point data reliably. Providing a help file is also a boon.
We're also using TIG's contourmaker plugin, which helps when exporting to data to AutoCAD.

Erkki

Hi,

How to get Cloud_71.rbs and Cloud_6.rb to work?

My intention is to load elevation data of a terrain collected with the help of a GSP-logger to create a terrain model for a village. I noticed that there is a plugin Cloud_71.rbs in the Ruby Library Depot by Didier Bur. I understand that the plugin accepts elevation data, if it is in the CSV-format described in the pdf of the plugin. I downloaded Cloud_71.rbs in the plugin folder of Sketchup 7.1 (Windows XP Pro).

For some reason the Cloud_71.rbs didn't show up in the Plugin menu or any other menu either after restart of Sketchup 7.1. The older "Clouds" with extension .rb show up, but unfortunately I wasn't able to get them work with the downloaded sample files, although I browsed all the possible SketchUcation discussion forums and also some others for help.

Does anyone know if there is an any easy way to get the Cloud_xx.rb plugins to work? And how to get the Cloud_71.rbs plugin show up and make terrain in Sketchup 7.1 or even in the newer Sketchup 8? I'm convinced that there are ways - I just couldn't find the way.

I'd be grateful for your help.

Kind regards Erkki Finni

Didier Bur

Hi,
Avoid having more than one version of a plugin installed at the same time, remove older versions of cloud script, this may cause the problem.
Hope this helps,

Erkki

@didier bur said:

Hi,
Avoid having more than one version of a plugin installed at the same time, remove older versions of cloud script, this may cause the problem.
Hope this helps,

Hi,

Thanks for the hint! I'll try to do this.

Regards Erkki Finni

Erkki

@didier bur said:

Hi,
Avoid having more than one version of a plugin installed at the same time, remove older versions of cloud script, this may cause the problem.
Hope this helps,

Hi again,

I removed the oldest versions of the Cloud_xx.rb plugins and
left only Cloud_71.rbs in the Plugin folder of Skecthup 7.1.
I started Skecthup
As it was opened, the File menu included Points Cloud option
After this everything was childsplay - all the test files were
drawn beatifully on the screen. I didn't test the Export-option yet.
I repeated the test with Skecthup 8.0.3117 and the result was also good.

This success made me happy and confident to use the plugin for my orginal purpose; to create terrain by using GPS-logger data as input. So many thanks for your help!

Kind regards Erkki Finni

Sir

anyone tried this on a file with about half a billion points?

Didier Bur

Hi,
It should import the points quite quickly, but for triangulation: forget it (the delaunay algorithm is slow and SU is lazy when drawing such a bunch of new entities).
Regards,

thomthom

@didier bur said:

Hi,
It should import the points quite quickly, but for triangulation: forget it (the delaunay algorithm is slow and SU is lazy when drawing such a bunch of new entities).
Regards,

Tried building the geometry with fill_from_mesh ?

Didier Bur

Yes

Sir

ok great thanks for your quick response

aerostreak

Hello,
I have tried all of the Cloud_xx plugins into Sketchup 8 and I can't make any of them work. The file I am loading is very very simple. I will paste it below.

I reverted all the way back to the very first Cloud_V6, the earliest that I could find, and the Ruby console says:

Error: #<TypeError: nil can't be coerced into Length>
(eval):151:in *' (eval):151:in import_points_cloud'
(eval):144:in each' (eval):144:in import_points_cloud'
(eval):481
(eval):151:in `call'
(eval):151

The file I am trying to load is:

1.000000,-0.003780
0.953817,-0.022681
0.907732,-0.040530
0.861844,-0.057373
0.816250,-0.073241
0.771049,-0.088146
0.726337,-0.102087
0.682209,-0.115043
0.638758,-0.126983
0.596079,-0.137864
0.554262,-0.147631
0.513396,-0.156226
0.473568,-0.163589
0.434864,-0.169660
0.397365,-0.174382
0.361153,-0.177706
0.326304,-0.179594
0.292893,-0.180019
0.260991,-0.178968
0.230666,-0.176444
0.201983,-0.172465
0.175003,-0.167064
0.149783,-0.160288
0.126378,-0.152200
0.104837,-0.142872
0.085206,-0.132385
0.067528,-0.120827
0.051839,-0.108290
0.038174,-0.094864
0.026562,-0.080638
0.017027,-0.065692
0.009590,-0.050101
0.004266,-0.033926
0.001067,-0.017214
0.000000,0.000000
0.001067025,0.017214296
0.004265824,0.033925754
0.009589569,0.050101133
0.0170269,0.065692279
0.026561946,0.080637625
0.038174357,0.094864216
0.051839352,0.108290174
0.067527771,0.120827496
0.085206132,0.132385097
0.104836709,0.142871957
0.126377609,0.152200267
0.149782864,0.160288431
0.175002525,0.167063819
0.201982773,0.172465155
0.230666029,0.176444437
0.260991083,0.178968318
0.292893219,0.180018886
0.326304356,0.179593805
0.361153194,0.177705805
0.397365364,0.174381539
0.434863586,0.169659848
0.473567837,0.16358949
0.513395521,0.15622643
0.554261644,0.147630793
0.596078995,0.137863597
0.638758334,0.126983409
0.68220858,0.115043056
0.72633701,0.102086543
0.77104945,0.088146303
0.816250482,0.07324092
0.861843645,0.05737344
0.907731641,0.040530362
0.953816541,0.022681392
1,0.00378

which are the coordinates for a landing gear fairing. I have also appended ",0" to the lines in order to have a z-coordinate. I have also used the dialog box to tell the plugin that there is no Z data. Also have selected flattening (or not) in trying to make it work. Have tried every version of plug in from beginning to latest, no luck, will not work in any configuration. In one version of the plugin, it brings up a massive dialog box, so long that I cannot see the bottom, asking me to tell it which elements are which. I can never figure out how to see the bottom of the dialog box (I am amateur Mac user, there must be a way?), but there is no longer a "nothing" option, so I am not sure getting to the bottom would help me.

These are my questions:

Do any of the Cloud plugins work in Sketchup 8?
Is there something wrong with my data, and that is why the Cloud plugin is failing?

I am running Mac OS 10.5.8 on iMac Intel dual core with Sketchup 8.0.3161.

In responding, please keep in mind I don't know anything about Ruby. Thanks for your help.

aerostreak

Update:

I went back to verify that I had, in fact, tried every possible version on Mac. In the process of doing that, I found TIG's fixups, in these two posts:

latest: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=24733#p240869
slightly earlier fixup: http://forums.sketchucation.com/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=24733#p212737

I can't get either fixup to work in Mac in OS 10.5.8 and Sketchup 8.0.3161 as posted.

I jumped over to WinXP and Sketchup 7.0.10247 using the 'slightly earlier fixup' and was able to load my coordinates (attached PNG).

I saved this over to Mac and can keep working now, however, I would really like to be able to work only on the Mac.

I studied TIG's posts a bit and it seemed like the problem was some statements in the script that 1) were not portable from Win to Mac, and 2) were possibly non-standard usage of Sketchup API that might break the script in future versions. However, I also noticed some strange behavior on Mac that leads me to believe there is something wrong in the file handling of some sort.

When used on Mac with the file as shown, I get this error:

"More than 3 XYZ coordinates per line (139).
Please select X, Y, and Z in the following line sample."

When I look at the line sample in the dialog box, it appears to show three coordinates, i.e., "1.000000,-0.003780,0" (note that I went back and added the extra ",0" just in case that was a problem - it wasn't). However, I can use the arrow keys and it turns out that a much larger part of the file is in the text box that shows the line sample. I can use the arrows to scroll around inside the tiny text box and see many other coordinates. I didn't think to see if the whole file were in that text box, but I did delete everything after the first line - but the same problem happens, the script simply will not process any data. I then get the same error as in my post above.

I have become convinced that the problem has something to do with how files are represented on the Mac versus Win. Is it possibly to do with CR/LF problems? Or something else wrong with my file?

Otherwise, I have found it extremely difficult to get any XYZ data into Sketchup, and not possible at all on the Mac (for me so far). It is very difficult to find the latest versions (I search for well over an hour to find TIG's fixups), to understand which ones have bugs and which ones not, etc etc. Even in the Plugin index there are four versions of Cloud_V6 referenced.

I am not able to sort out whether I have the wrong plugin or whether I am doing something wrong. Help is greatly appreciated, I have done everything I know how to do. Thanks.