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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      So it's returning nil because you don't have RickW's Smustard menu added - OK and shouldn't cause aprobelm...
      You do have the clf's tools menu loaded - Good.
      BUT you don't have clf's youtube menu loading... Strange...
      This could be the problem - it loads from clf's component_stringer / camera_recorder / shape_bender / voodoo_importer
      Try checking you have those...

      Chris ❓

      TIG

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      • charly2008C Offline
        charly2008
        last edited by

        I'm a little bit confused. That are all the Plugins i have in a PDF-File.

        Charly


        DirPrintOK Document 8 Seite(n).pdf

        He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          So... Chris's tools fall over because one of them hasn't already loaded 'some other menu' when it thinks it has...
          Here's a [possible] simple fix... put it into the correct sub-folder...
          clf_shape_bender.rb
          Chris can sort it 'properly' later... 😒

          TIG

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          • charly2008C Offline
            charly2008
            last edited by

            Many thanks TIG. I tried the Shape Bender plugin in SketchUp 8 there it works fine. and now with your update it works again in Sketchup 7.

            Charly

            He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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            • Chris FullmerC Offline
              Chris Fullmer
              last edited by

              Hey TIG, thanks for looking into it. I am without a computer at home for now, so I'm mostly useless. But what was the problem you found? I was able to load shape bender just fine without having any of my other plugins loaded. Did I mess something up in my overly complicated menu system?

              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
              All my Plugins I've written

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              • TIGT Offline
                TIG Moderator
                last edited by

                Chris
                Wait till you get a proper link in to check what's up... I think it's the way that some of your scripts check if a Plugin is loaded already... I moved the confirmations in that file so each of them is immediately after its the first-run check and its seems to work OK then...
                You have over-complicated your menu checking somewhat.... but - hey 😎 -join-the-club 😄
                It seems to depend on which of your scripts a user has loading... and of course it shouldn't 😒
                It's probably an easy fix BUT it probably affects several of your scripts 😞

                TIG

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                • mariochaM Offline
                  mariocha
                  last edited by

                  Huh ....
                  The shape in the attached file makes Shape Bender crash SU.
                  I tried it several times.
                  (The line I want to use is hard to see, on the red axis)


                  branch-o.skp

                  %(#008000)[Mario C.
                  Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    Bug Splat for me, too. Even after I moved the straight line so it lies on the red axis. It works with a simple long, skinny box. Perhaps there's too much geometry in the branch?

                    Etaoin Shrdlu

                    %

                    (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                    G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                    M30

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                    • jeff hammondJ Offline
                      jeff hammond
                      last edited by

                      (mac)
                      works in SU7.. crashes with 8


                      screen 10.jpg

                      dotdotdot

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                      • D Offline
                        d12dozr
                        last edited by

                        Worked fine for me, the only thing I did was move the branch up a few inches so I could see the horizontal line. I didn't get the green preview wires like I usually do though.

                        File is attached.


                        branch-o.skp

                        3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                        http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                        • mariochaM Offline
                          mariocha
                          last edited by

                          Great ! Good idea.
                          I will try it in v7.
                          thx a lot.
                          I guess a small update of the plugin will be needed. 😄

                          %(#008000)[Mario C.
                          Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                          • jim smithJ Offline
                            jim smith
                            last edited by

                            I haven't run through all the thread since 8 came on the scene, but it doen't work on my laptop with 8. V7.1, it works just fine. Attached is a screen shot of a simple bend, it seems to start and then stalls at 5%. On my V7.1, it bends in a few seconds. I don't get any error message box on startup or when I start the shape bender.


                            shapebenderproblem.png

                            "Out of clutter find simplicity,
                            from discord find harmony,
                            In the middle of difficulty lies opportunity"
                            Albert Einstein

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                            • Chris FullmerC Offline
                              Chris Fullmer
                              last edited by

                              Looks like I need to poke aroud in this plugin again to get it v8 compatible. I'll see what I can do.

                              Chris

                              Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                              All my Plugins I've written

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                              • gullfoG Offline
                                gullfo
                                last edited by

                                it's working OK for me on SU8 (on fairly complex shapes), but previously on SU7 i had a similar problem and i cleaned things up and removed a number of older plugins and then everything worked OK. i suggest checking to see if you can identify a plugin which may be problematic.

                                Glenn

                                http://www.runnel.com

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                                • mariochaM Offline
                                  mariocha
                                  last edited by

                                  Hum... I will check.
                                  In fact yes, on other shapes it worked ok in 8.
                                  Won't be easy to find a non-constant problem.

                                  %(#008000)[Mario C.
                                  Every rule has exceptions, but some.]

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                                  • C Offline
                                    cheriyan
                                    last edited by

                                    Thanks for this plugins

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                                    • gullfoG Offline
                                      gullfo
                                      last edited by

                                      @jasper.middelberg said:

                                      yet I discovered that bending will stretch the boards...
                                      does anybody know how this can be solved digitally?

                                      i usually pre-calculate the length of the target shape. e.g. if i have a 4' length and need to bend it in a arc, i figure out the length of the arc so the bent object is the correct length.

                                      it might be simpler to use extrude tools to make the outline of the shape and extrude it. or maybe vertex tools could manipulate the grid correctly...

                                      Glenn

                                      http://www.runnel.com

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                                      • Chris FullmerC Offline
                                        Chris Fullmer
                                        last edited by

                                        @gullfo said:

                                        i usually pre-calculate the length of the target shape. e.g. if i have a 4' length and need to bend it in a arc, i figure out the length of the arc so the bent object is the correct length.

                                        👍 +1 Measure the line you are bending to first, and make you straight line the exact same length. (this is all funcionality I have planned to add to the next version of this tool if I ever get around to making it). Then make your board the exactly same length also. Then there should be no stretching.

                                        Lately you've been tan, suspicious for the winter.
                                        All my Plugins I've written

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                                        • J Offline
                                          jasper.middelberg
                                          last edited by

                                          Hello,

                                          perhaps a shot in the dark, hopefully a suggestion or otherwise a cue for anybody that can point me in a good direction to work with this:

                                          An experiment, using standard plywood boards, bolted together.
                                          the idea is that if bending plywood, the structural capacity of the plywood becomes higher,
                                          thus, being able to make a light weight skin roof that can support itself.

                                          Now, my quest is how to bolt a bunch of plywood boards together to form a sort of
                                          conics tipi roof.

                                          I hoped Shapebender would get me there,

                                          draw up a grid of plywood boards and being able to bend them in a desired shape,
                                          in order to find out:

                                          • optimum plywood pattern
                                          • where to make the bolt holes
                                          • where the cutlines would be for top and bottom of the roof

                                          possible workflow:

                                          • to bend the plywood boards around a surface,
                                          • then to be able to make markings on the different boards,
                                          • then to unbend
                                          • and have straight boards again for scaled drawings for:
                                            cut patterns and bolting positions

                                          yet I discovered that Shapebender will stretch the boards...
                                          does anybody know how this can be solved?

                                          the idea of bending plywood I found at
                                          http://conicshelter.com/

                                          thank you,

                                          Jasper

                                          below image
                                          left back: started testing bending boards,
                                          front: a preferred conic shape:


                                          'pace_conics_shapebender.jpg

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                                          • J Offline
                                            jasper.middelberg
                                            last edited by

                                            Thank you Chris and Gullfo,

                                            yet, starting point is the standard size of the plywood
                                            and not having to make cuts before hand.

                                            Making use of standard sized plywood,
                                            bend it onto a desired shape,
                                            with an overlap, to be able to determine the boltpositions
                                            and finally know the cutpatterns for top & bottom

                                            I really don't know how this can be modeled in a way it is easy to experiment.
                                            in Sketchup or any 3d software.

                                            yet I guess this workflow might be a bit too much to ask from your plugin,
                                            anyway, I really appreciate your work,

                                            thanks again,

                                            Jasper

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