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    • pilouP Offline
      pilou
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      @unknownuser said:

      Is there a plugin to create a Geodesic Dome.

      Seems you have someone in the Components menu Shapes or in 3Dware house 😉


      dome.png

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
      My Little site :)

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      • GaieusG Offline
        Gaieus
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        If you want to know something about geodesic domes, our fellow member Taff Gogh is to search for. This is his 3D Warehouse contribution:
        http://sketchup.google.com/3dwarehouse/cldetails?mid=1f33552966b6f22224e5217d8a2e013a
        and his Google Groups for Geodesic Domes:
        http://groups.google.com/group/geodesichelp

        But unfortunately, Al, I would doubt that a different shape on the top would help (albeit who knows?) It's where the image itself should also shrink to infinity. So speaking of skies, maybe one with a pure, blue colour on the very top could produce some not noticeable turbulence?

        Gai...

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        • charly2008C Offline
          charly2008
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          Thanks for all your help. I will try out UVMapper.

          He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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          • Al HartA Offline
            Al Hart
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            @gaieus said:

            Yes, in the meanwhile I edited my previous post, too.

            Solution - put a cap on the top. 😛

            Can you show us a view from the top of the dome with a cap on top.

            (Or was that a joke?)

            Thanks,

            Al

            Al Hart

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            • Al HartA Offline
              Al Hart
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              Thanks for your help on this Gai.

              We need to get Whaat to recognize the triangles at the top, and assign the UV coordinates differently.

              Alternatively, you could start with a Geodesic Dome which uses the same size for all triangles. Would Whaat's plug-on work for Geodesic Domes?

              Is there a plugin to create a Geodesic Dome.

              We tried to solve this when we were trying to improve the O3D dome for viewing panoramic images (which has the same problem at the top and bottom), but we weren't able to do it properly.

              Al Hart

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              • D Offline
                driven
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                2004 by Gavin Kistner- Geodesic_SketchUp.rb

                don't remember where or when I got this, have you tried it?

                john

                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                • pilouP Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by

                  Taffgoch serial domes is amazing 😲 😲 😲

                  His PDF is a true gem! 😎

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

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                  • GaieusG Offline
                    Gaieus
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                    Al, see the image I attached to that post. There is a yellow "cap" - just hiding the fact that we cannot properly UV Map that part.

                    Maybe half joke but at the same time, if you can find out something to put there, can be a workaround.

                    Gai...

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                    • TIGT Offline
                      TIG Moderator
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                      @gaieus said:

                      Al, see the image I attached to that post. There is a yellow "cap" - just hiding the fact that we cannot properly UV Map that part.

                      Maybe half joke but at the same time, if you can find out something to put there, can be a workaround.

                      This is as it would be in the 'real-world' - you'd have a special cap-stone or finial, simply because you can't use smaller and smaller tiles or stone to finish it - The builder WILL use a single 'thing'... 💭

                      TIG

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                      • GaieusG Offline
                        Gaieus
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                        Certainly. Even the rest of the tiles mapped spherically is impossible.

                        Gai...

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                        • Al HartA Offline
                          Al Hart
                          last edited by

                          I see my problem better now.

                          I don't want a texture mapping which gets smaller and smaller at the top. I want a texture mapping which is uniform over the entire dome - As if you placed an actual carpet on the dome.

                          To do this properly, I would probably need to make the dome out of hexagons, and have a "hexagon tileable" pattern to place on it.

                          I'm sure people must to this sometimes, but it is probably more difficult than I think.

                          http://plus.maths.org/issue8/features/art/orb.jpg

                          Al Hart

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                          • D Offline
                            driven
                            last edited by

                            I do this a lot , if that's what you mean

                            learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                              d12dozr
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                              @unknownuser said:

                              I do this a lot , if that's what you mean

                              And just HOW do you do that? 😄 I believe that is what he means...

                              3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                              http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                                driven
                                last edited by

                                @d12dozr said:

                                And just HOW do you do that? 😄 I believe that is what he means...

                                probably the hard way,

                                I strip out the annular rings from one sphere, make a group, rotate copies until I like the pattern, explode the lot, slice off the top (3 or 4 rings), drape with sandbox, slice off the top of a plain old 'follow me' sphere (just 1 or 2 rings), offer up the sandbox hat (Gai was right, just a hat), decide how far to use the pattern, trim, explode, add projected material off a number of different angled surfaces I paint ( and make unique before projecting), decide what I like, purge all the test materials, and that's it...

                                I make these cages for pipe along path objects, and just thought I try draping and rendering one night,
                                foolishly I always bin the makings and have to start from scratch each time, but I'll keep this drawing and use it as a component, nearly everything is grouped so have a play.
                                like this

                                You only need to change the top 1 or 2 rings to completely change how the texture gets projected, but I have no idea why.
                                On this one I also copy pasted the cylinder off the standard one because the texture worked better on that one, again no idea why.

                                john

                                this is why I normally use this technique (it's for a 3D printing test in stainless steel)


                                I haven't cleaned this up, but should be OK

                                learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                  d12dozr
                                  last edited by

                                  Thank you for the detailed explanation.

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                                    driven
                                    last edited by

                                    @d12dozr said:

                                    Thank you for the detailed explanation.

                                    no problem, don't know if it helps Al (I know next to nothing about UV mapping, but I just saw this sitting on the desktop and may as well add it
                                    I think explains the basic construction technique more clearly

                                    learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                    • Al HartA Offline
                                      Al Hart
                                      last edited by

                                      I finally found geodesic_sketchup.rb script on

                                      http://www.crai.archi.fr/rubylibrarydepot/ruby/em_geo_page.htm

                                      It created a spehere with even triangles, so the material does not bunch up at the top or bottom. Now I just need to find a pattern which is tileable in a triangular pattern. (I turned on the hidden lines here so you could see the actual triangles which form the sphere)

                                      geodesic-w-material.jpg

                                      Here's what I was trying to get - a sphere which would take a bumpy pattern, and spread it out well.

                                      geodessic-gold.jpg

                                      Al Hart

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                                      • TaffGochT Offline
                                        TaffGoch
                                        last edited by

                                        Hello, all,

                                        I've been "lurking" on this discussion, and see that Al has posted an image of Simon Thomas' sculpture, "Orb"...

                                        http://plus.maths.org/issue8/features/art/orb.jpg

                                        As Gaieus mentioned, it is, indeed, based on a geodesic sphere (class-I, frequency-2, if you're familiar with the terminology.)

                                        Several other of Thomas' sculptures are compelling, and would make for interesting SketchUp exercises.

                                        http://plus.maths.org/issue8/features/art/hc4.jpg

                                        http://plus.maths.org/issue8/features/art/hcone1.jpg

                                        See here, for descriptions: The art of numbers


                                        For geodesic design in SketchUp, I often use an online java applet that can output a text file of the x,y,z coordinates for each vertex, which I then import into SketchUp, as a "point cloud"...
                                        Thomson Problem

                                        ...just another (powerful) geodesic resource, should you be looking for such.

                                        Taff

                                        "Information is not knowledge." -- Albert Einstein

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                                        • D Offline
                                          driven
                                          last edited by

                                          one of Geoge W Hart's downloadeable STL files
                                          http://www.georgehart.com/rp/rp.html

                                          You might try skinning one of the models on this site, well worth a visit in any case

                                          john

                                          learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                                          • Al HartA Offline
                                            Al Hart
                                            last edited by

                                            I added a dome and sphere to RpTools using Gavin Kistner's Geodesic class.

                                            This should make it much easier for me to create smooth domes and sphere when I need one.

                                            create_sphere.jpg

                                            Al Hart

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