thanks guys..much appreciated.. i'll post up the finals when its done.

Thats a rather large project. That would look rather nice using some of Todd wood, ripple something. Alan

Twin front disc brakes?! That must be one heavy rider Ivica! Cool models, nice renders. Jackson

Thanks all for the nice words. CraigD, "Tropical Garden" by Stu Mayhew displayed in the KT site gallery is photorealistic even from 18" away!! Tom, at 974 x 623 pixels resolution and "PhotonMap+Caustics - High + AA 0.3" setting it took 33 minutes on a P4 3ghz 512mb RAM and 128mb VRAM. Fletch, Wow! a comment from a KT guru! I had also noticed those two light behaviour (KT Lights - Ceiling3) and tried changing to spotlights but didn't like it either. Thanks for the pointer on PS shadow/highlights. Guite

@eqc said: MAC USERS!! MACFORMAT 184 JULY 2007 ISSUE ----FREE FULL VERSION OF CHEETAH 3D is it not a demo version?

sorry, i took it off to make some alterations, i have put it back up now thanks for the comments guys has been really helpful

Damnit 4get to attach image here goes [tom yong] [image: dENA_test9.jpg]

Modelhead, Thanks for the positive feedback. It always helps! There are a bunch of issues around selling images of SketchUp models. Some of these are technical, like finding a good way to print models, but most have to do with the nature of art itself and the market for art. At the inexpensive end of this practice of hanging images on walls, there is the poster market. People purchasing posters don't really care that a poster is mass produced. Low price is crucial. At the expensive end of the art market exclusivity is key and price doesn't seem to be much of a factor. In the middle -primarily lithographs and the like- scarcity is artificially created by the artist destroying the plates after a certain quantity of numbered prints are produced. I think something similar will be necessary for SketchUp art (digital art in general) if we want to sell our work outside the poster market. One interesting possibility is to sell a certain number of unique (numbered) views into a model and then destroy the model. The same practice could apply to walkthroughs of models. I'd love to hear what others have to think about this issue. Fred

jb, been watching this thread with great interest (but haven't had time to play I did download VP5 a few minutes ago (longer I guess since I used up my free trial already) and really like what it does...might just buy it and an edger/outliner I've had my eyes on. Thanks and more please, Tom.

Move the jaggy slider and they will be even better.

Yea, good ole' Indiana. You can't buy a bottle of wine on Sunday, but you can get enough fireworks to level a city 24/7. I'm glad they were helpful.

Jeff, this is really great! I have a son is really loves skateboarding. Might be fun to see what happens in SketchyPhysics?

Hmmmmm...so you actually "painted" the painting. (No wonder it looks so good! :`) Thanks a bunch for the ideas now smolderin', Tom.

Eric, nice image...must be a fun project detailwise!

i thoght i saw something weird...where have the shadows gone!? would look a lot nicer with shadows, in my opinion. good refelction and stuff, though.

I don't think so Kris, that one star seems pretty bright to me, scary bright as a matter of fact. Cool idea though, getting to grips with night time renderings showing starlight.

One of my newest components is an entire photo studio. Not needing light stands or power cords is a real luxury. I just pop the fixture silo into the photo studio, adjust a few lights and we have an image ready for the catalog. Client saw the final product and his first comment was, "this looks so real maybe we should go back and add the weld beads." [image: A69a_blu_orng_silo_4.jpg]

Yep Anssi, you nailed that lamp shade. Nice image.

I understand the logic very well. I have experienced the lack of standards and the confusion its creates within operations and leaves certain individuals hung out to dry. If you install all three engines and train everyone equally on there functions then fine, but your not going to find a company that will take the time to implement that so they choose one.

Those are great! I especially like the Tron models. Fantastic.