@linea said:
I like Layout a lot but I can't wait for Google to add the functions that Layout needs to compete with the paperspace tools that cad programs have.
I'd be interested to learn what those functions are; mostly I'm doing ok with Layout but having never used any of those other tools I don't know what I might be missing.
Well you can sort of do it, surely? As long as you make your item out of suitable sub-components and saved them in separate files you just need to use 'reload' from the context menu for the component.
Given that basic facility I wouldn't be at all surprised if some clever rubyite could work out how to find matchingsub-components within a file and substitute them.
@kwistenbiebel said:
... lead by lesbian amazons, preferrably two-headed.
If so, I sign up.
That would be two-headed vampire lesbian amazons..
@kwistenbiebel said:
That is, if it fits my agenda shooting those other movies I am doing. 'Greek Zombies From Afghanistan' will be a blast. Look out for that one. The zombies win.
The zombies always win. How else do you explain politics in pretty much every country?
I'd like some monochrome patterns too. The real trick would be to make them still appear when using a no-textures style, something I find useful for stuff to be printed.
Not sure what you mean by a template in this context. Can you elucidate?
@tomsdesk said:
@unknownuser said:
...you cannot pass over and neglect God’s words/will, endlessly!
Why not?
He's sort of right in a twisted way. I think that technically you can't ignore something that does not exist. It's the old 'Have you stopped beating your wife yet? Yes or no?' conundrum.
@unknownuser said:
…but I’m not obtuse!
Evidently you gained all these certifications (not as many as I did from the looks of things; I actually was a Major until promoted) without learning enough to actually understand much. Since you're incapable of taking part in a worthwhile discussion I suppose we'll just have to ignore you.
@unknownuser said:
Re. family ‘atributes’, reproduction is one of the primary functions - it excludes gay people!
You're making a really good run at proving you're deranged. You also demonstrate a serious lack of historical knowledge, biological knowledge and ability to understand actual facts. I suggest you either learn some science or just leave.
@unknownuser said:
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Re. “gay marriage”, this is a nonsense expression.
When two homosexual people pretend to be a family , because they cannot procreate, even their beings become human ‘mistakes’!
I'll thank you to keep your vile religionazi opinions to yourself. Just for starters, since when has procreating been the definition of marriage? Trying to tell me that I'm not married because I have no offspring? You psychotic 'people of faith' make me despair of humanity.
@zx10r_gaz said:
You shouldn't be to concerned, I manage just fine in 2D. I am "Old School" and in my "pre CAD" days everything I done was done on a drawing board with good old pencil & paper. A lot of the modern wonders of this world where conceived pre computers never mind pre 3D CAD...
Well, whatever works for you is what you should do. I was 'Old School' too in my youth; I did many courses on constructive geometry and how to work out the shortest distance between two tunnels in a mine from an assortment of projections etc. It was one of the reasons I became interested in CAD in the first place! It was certainly a major reason I moved into CAD research in the early 1980s. I designed and built several motorcycle frames with paper and pencil. I sure as hell wouldn't do it that way again!
@zx10r_gaz said:
I can design and draught a "finished and presented" new build or extension a lot quicker in 2D than I can with SketchUp when you take into consideration the amount of detailing, sections and annotations I do. SketchUp or rather Layout is merely trying to emulate the finished result you or I get from AutoCAD. At the end of the day I have to supply Plan views, elevations views and sections, and at present SketchUp "or Layout" does not supply the speed and quality of detailing for me to use it as a serious replacement to AutoCAD. I only wish it did. $$$$
but I won't give up on it just yet...
Gaz...
As I say above - what works for you in your business works for you. Changing would be an interruption and you'd have to be very convinced that changing would pay off before you got hungry. So far I find using SU to build a good model is a valuable process since it makes sure I'm not deceiving myself about the geometry. Once you have a decent model it is really quite easy and fast to make all sorts of detail and section and plan views in the combination of SU and LO.
My latest example; taking all the SIP units that make up the roof of the house and laying them all flat to provide a set of dimensioned drawings to the manufacturer. Total time taken maybe 5 minutes. Similarly a quick check to find the area of all the drywall in order to ask a contractor for a guesstimate - less time than it took for him to drink his coffee. Can AutoCAD do it ? Probably, but I've never really used it and am never likely to since it would require using windows and paying a lot of money. Could you do it with pencil and paper? Of course - if one had an office full of young associate architects being paid peanuts as they strive for partnership.
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@unknownuser said:
How do you manage to do everything in 2D? I can't imagine how one can efficiently visualise complex systems in only 2 dimensions. Having a 3D model helps me to find places where parts simply don't match, or can't possibly fit, or merely look awful. The part I really don't like about 2D only is that you can end up lying to yourself about the suitability of a design. Lying to a client is one thing but lying to yourself...
How do you manage to do everything in 2D? I can't imagine how one can efficiently visualise complex systems in only 2 dimensions. Having a 3D model helps me to find places where parts simply don't match, or can't possibly fit, or merely look awful. The part I really don't like about 2D only is that you can end up lying to yourself about the suitability of a design. Lying to a client is one thing but lying to yourself.... that's foolish.
@redinhawaii said:
why not an informed "animation" that can show not only how a building is to be built, but one that can be information rich, i.e. click on a component and there is a "nameset" link to it...
with the ability to add comments, input, feedback etc.
Insofar as I understand it, dynamic components provide for some of this. You can add attributes that will be seen in the relevant dialogue, apparently including URLs. I've not had time to even attempt any DC work but it certainly sounds useful.
One thing I am going to be trying in the next few days is making a build animation to show the stages of building the house since it isn't quite the usual sequence.
@honoluludesktop said:
The VM is another program that runs inside the Mac OS. Not sure, but it probably gets its OS from the partition. If you run Windows in the VM, it will run alongside the Mac OS, but it runs very slow.
Not really. I don't use parallels a lot; pretty much only to run DoubleCAD and some specialised work related software that occasionally needs to be checked. It seems to run at about the same speed you'd expect the software to run on a similar spec Windows machine, bearing in mind that you can set the amount of memory the parallels VM sees and how high a priority it has and even the number of processor cores it can use. A colleague runs Word under parallels rather than Mac:Word because there are a few feature differences that annoy him. Of course, nobody runs Word by choice on any machine.
@dave r said:
Tim has excellent advice.
A long time ago at a Chinese restaurant my work-group frequented I got a fortune from a cookie that was a very fortuitous typo -
"Tim is the wisest counsellor"
What difference does LO make ?
Well, it allows the detail views to be shown without having to see the whole model - see pages 9 & 10 for example.
It allows for annotations about details and labeling of parts of the views.
It allows for fitting several related views together on a page ready for printing. Can't do that from SU directly.
It produces a nicely organised PDF file I can share with my contractors or have printed full-size.
It allows generally understood markup for detail views - see page 9 upper right view where two details are called out and referred on the same page.
By and large most people wouldn't appreciate getting an SU file and the instruction 'open this and build a house from it'. This may change in the future but right now it is a treat to find contractors that even use email.
What would I do differently? Be more organised about layers and components from the start; I did fairly well and didn't have to mess around too much but I'm sure I could do better.
What Dave said plus
Ashling Rd Layout.pdf
@gaieus said:
@tim said:
I'd provide a copy for perusal if I could find a way to persuade this damn forum to accept my file...
What's the problem with the forum and the file? (**.layout* IS an allowed file format)
I simply can't get the file (a pdf in this case) to upload. I can choose the file, I press the 'add the file' button and..... wait....wait.....wait.....wait.... give up after an hour or so. Of course, if I try now it will work immediately, so here goes -Ashling Rd Layout.pdf
Yup. Of course.
The iPhone version loaded perfectly on my iPhone this afternoon. I am now several inches taller, better endowed, richer, better looking and more popular with the ladies.
I've also used SUPro & LO to prepare drawings for several projects including furniture, engineering parts and even my new house. I'm sure there are parts of the work that more expensive software can do better (sections and detail views come to mind) but having looked a few other packages I really can't say I like the UIs.
It would be nice if SU did the equivalent of the 'Add Section-Cut Face' plugin automatically as cuts happened. It would be nice to be able to set a suitable pattern for the cut-face to show the materials. I guess it would be nice if SU actually behaved as a solid modeller when you have a solid item.
It would be nice if LO could do the dimensioning and if the labels and texts in LO could attach to locations in the SU model so that altering the view didn't mess up the placement of said labels and texts.
But despite the above I managed to produce a precisely drawn model of a house, make dimensioned views of it, provide a variety of sectional views, several detail sub-views, annotate it all, put it together and build myself a pretty comprehensive set of plans. I'd provide a copy for perusal if I could find a way to persuade this damn forum to accept my file....