@panixia said:

@optimaforever said:

@thomthom @TIG
I love TIG's drop vertice feature when I need to conform a quad web onto a given (usually triangulated) surface below for topography mesh for instance. It works but I lose the quad property of the net.
Is it possible to adapt TIG's code to keep the "quad-ness" while dropping the vertices?

If you triangulate the quadmesh (using the triangulate command in QFT) it will work like a charm.
This trick will work also for artisan brush and some other tools which don't "officially" support quads.

triangulate the quad mesh prior to drop vertices to keep the quadness? interesting

Hello Thomthom
Just an idea for the LINE tool of QFT:
Is it possible to have a LINE tool that always generate quads with NORMALS unified towards the camera?
I don't know how you define the normal orientation for generating quads when you close a quad surface with the line tool. Usually it's pinpoint but sometimes I get reversed normals and with complex mesh the Su genuine "orient surfaces" tool fails.

@thomthom @TIG
I love TIG's drop vertice feature when I need to conform a quad web onto a given (usually triangulated) surface below for topography mesh for instance. It works but I lose the quad property of the net.
Is it possible to adapt TIG's code to keep the "quad-ness" while dropping the vertices?

@panixia said:

Honestly I wasn't trying to propose a workaround, just trying to better "isolate" the problem to give some more clue to Thomas.

Honestly I'm wondering if Thomas actually reads this thread...

@panixia said:

I confirm this happens when you try to bridge 2 edges which are not coplanar.
doesn't happen if they are more than 2 or if they are 2 but still coplnar.

Thanks!
Ok, so a workaround would be to break/divide the vertices before doing bridge?

Hello Thomthom

I have a question / bug about Bridge.
When I select 2 vertices and ask for Bridge, VT2 generates 2 quads, surimposed.
Example:
I select vertices (1) and (2) and launch bridge
Then VT generates a double quad (3)
How to avoid this?

The first culprit would be update TTlib to the latest version.
You can do it via Extension Manager & update or via Sketchucation Tools, update on th small icon above.
Next would be update of QFT itself. If there's no update sign, try to force the update and see if you still have the error after close and reload SU.

Sometimes I have this kind of error when I launch SU too soon after the PC boot. Just wait 1-2 min after the boot and fire SU. I guess some background routines need to be loaded and in place before launching SU as the plugins rely on these routines?

@dave r said:

@optimaforever said:

I have noticed that regularly my LOTT toolbars don't appear when loading SU.
It seems it's related to updates.

Are you still using SketchUp 2017 Pro as indicated in your profile?

Was SketchUp installed correctly? That requires right clicking on the downloaded installer and selecting Run as administrator. If not, there would be issues with folder permissions that could prevent extensions from installing/updating correctly.

I've never had any issues with any of Fredo6's extensions updating and loading correctly. I made sure to install SketchUp correctly on my machines.

Thanks Dave.
I've updated my profile (sorry I use SU since v2.1 circa 2001 so this was pretty obvious for me that I use the latest build but you're right, let's update this ).
I don't think I installed SU as an admin because my Win11 account is an admin account.
I never had any issues prior to this but since Win11 i have had so many bugs...
So you mean that in your case, plugins updates automatically without asking/notifying you?

Hello Fredo
I have noticed that regularly my LOTT toolbars don't appear when loading SU.
It seems it's related to updates.
While I understand that you update your plugins on a regular basis, it's very annoying that essential tools get stuck each time you make an update.
I need to have a guess and try Extension Manager updates (nope), a Sketchucation tools update (nope), a manual reinstall of the LOTT plugin (overwriting) via sketchucation tools (YES)...
At least you could give us a hint when the LOTT toolbars don't appear anymore.
When I don't have a wifi connexion it's a nightmare, I need to open all my plugins toolabr again to have access to the tools I use on a daily basis (and clutter my UI as in the past).

Thanks for the cool essential addon!

Hello Thom
I have a bug I think.
When I try to remove loops QFT leaves hidden vertex that produces unwanted ngons when Subded.

Hi thom!
Is it possible to have 4K screen compliant icons?
On my laptop it's nearly impossible to see the values of the connect edges tools window...

Amazing work ! I admit that the quadface tools+vertextools+subD workflow
is something that I sometimes miss in Fusion360, as it allows some complex
sculpting with ease, and this f2004 is a wonderful demonstration !!!

How can you retrieve the second tile you made in wrapR?
can it save several tiles for one mesh? or you need an workaround?
UDIM workflow is possible in substance painter but I never thought of
doing that with a sketchup-generated mesh.
This is new for me, you’re a genius !

@derei said:

Did anyone else experience that WrapR is deleting SubD edge creasing data?

Personally I use WrapR on a subdivided geometry, so I don’t care but other users send a non subdivided mesh to wrapR and retrieve the wrapped skp and subD it afterwards, so I guess the creasing parameter can become an issue?
Recently I started exporting the mesh as obj via quadfacetools export feature to keep quads towards 3dsmax and use the unwrap modifier.

Cute

Thanks!

Your Unity model and skills are impressive as well. I'm more a Lumion/Twinmotion guy than Unreal but there was a time when I modeled in Worldcraft (Half-Life modding tool) and had to scrutinize everything under the hood. Now, there are too many tools I need to master (from Sketchup to Allegorithmic tools, Fusion360, Blender, Zbrush, Resolve, After Effects, PS, Vray, Thea, Max, Wrap-R, Transmutr, Quixel Bridge, Megascan, etc. etc. once upon a time I was happy with just Sketchup and PS) and can't allow a lot of spare time on details (and god knows Unity and Unreal need a lot of things to be learnt)...

Your bad english is way more understandale than mine
So yes, I'm curious to see that!

BTW please place the text in a better position as it will be easier to read (in the video), as the bottom right isn't the best place as our eyes must continuously switch between the action (generally at the center of the frame) and the text.

Thanks for the interesting video showcasing your workflow.

I have a pretty similar one (offset loop being a well hidden QFT feature only accessible by the shortcut or the menu ). I agree that Bridge loop tends to make mistake by offsetting some corresponding vertices (but again no biggie, Curviloft can help indeed). There is place for improvements here

But I'm amazed by your mastery of Wrap-R... With my meshes I can barely move vertices and it bugsplats (old SU acquaintance) often so I need to save all the time. The way you align the rims faces of the butterfly chair seems brute force... but it makes sense as you will later apply a parallel wood pattern in SBSPainter.

BTW Do you have a particular technique to quadify an exported SU quad mesh in 3dsmax or Blender? Mines always import as tris and unwelded. I'm not an expert of Max and can't find any tuto on the web for this kind of case... When you model in Max, the mesh vertices are weld by default so Maxers don't understand my issue. I tried QFT's export as OBJ and it indeed LOOKS like a quad...

but when I apply a turbosmooth (or a meshsmooth), it reveals that it's a tri...

Because of this, I can't use the Unwrap tools because it can't detect seams on TRI meshes...

So according to you, one can Wrap-R a mesh in low poly, reload it in SU, then subD-it and it will keep the unwrapped status? I never tried this.

This one for instane was a nightmare to WrapR...

Indeed.
I regret that SubD/QFT quads don't export as quads correctly, otherwise Blender has very good unwrap tools. But as it is now, Sketchuppers are forced to work with SketchUV or WrapR for their UV tweaking.
And unfortunately WrapR is damn slow/not featured enough compared to Max or Blender counterparts.
The workable polycount is very low. It's only usable for small models with low complexity. The Undo is not always working/too slow. In Substance Designer, I often tend to rely more on the beta Unwrapper on an straight (no-unwrapped) fbx exported from SU because of that...

I think this plugin is underrated because it's too expensive for its features (and because the casual Sketchupper don't care abut Unwrapping) and therefore too small userbase to really push it forward.

I dream that Thomthom takes the code and embeds it in his QuadFaceTools v2, working hands in hands with VertexTools 2 and SubD 2... For me, it would make sense as WrapR can't work without quads anyway, and so is dependent on QFT and SubD...

I never understood how relax worked in WrapR... It's way too slow too.
Is WrapR still under development? There are so many things I'd like to ask...

Bonjour,
Qu'en est-il aujourd'hui?
Toujours pas d'exporteur STEP depuis SketchUp?
Dois-je obligatoirement passer par 3dsMax?

@pilou said:

@ Zooen Ah, mais c'est de moi ça!
La page d'avant c'était celle-là

Sacré Pilou!!! Toujours fidèle au poste