I started modeling by placing a sphere (SketchPlus > Draw > Sphere or as_shapestoolbar > place sphere or the hard way, draw 2 circles in perpendicular plans with the same origin, select a circle rim and use follow me on the other circle surface).
Then with the new A2 edit tools, I squashed loosely the sphere to conform to the front and side view.
Each time I edit a vertice, I verify in both views.
Hello all
I'm so happy to add Artisan2 (A2) to my quad modeling toolbox!
This is a little case study for the modeling of a Tamiya Hotshot driver helmet.
I used to model with Quadface Tools (QFT), Vertex tools (VT) and SubD (SD) but now with Artisan2 (A2), a lot of operations are much easier and faster!
I have a real model that I try to replicate in 3D. Usually I measure the width, depth and height and draw rectangles. Then I apply textures of photographs in them.
The best way is in fact to use images instead of textures when using photographs because the images don't disappear when entering groups/components editing mode but here I was lazy and used textures because it's easier to adjust and scale. The drawback is that I need to model in the root level (no grouping) to see the photographs.
@tig said:
If a model [or a component created from it] is 'geo-located' then the first time it's inserted in a new model it snaps to the origin with no user input.
To avoid this remove the component's geo-location under the relevant item in its Model Info.
Always take care with imported SKPs that they are not geo-located !
Ah! interesting info, thanks Tig!
@utiler said:
So after much hair pulling, a total re-install and numerous trouble shooting ebbs and flow I realised it was something with my template file that was causing the problem. I may have avoided the the re-install but SU has never looked so good with all the unused crap I have loaded over the years....!
Thanks for helping out guys; if there's one on-line community that feels line we are all under the same roof its this one....
Now, where's that Pinterest link.....
Hello, can you develop please?
I have the same issue with several of my components that import exactly at the origin and I can't avoid that. When working with heavy models it's always a pita to have to dezoom to pick the compo at 0,0,0 and move it to the wanted place...
Thanks
@panixia said:
@optimaforever said:
triangulate the quad mesh prior to drop vertices to keep the quadness? interesting
Yes, exactly.
You're a genius!
And you can keep the quads while using sculpt brush with Artisan!!! 
@panixia said:
@optimaforever said:
@thomthom @TIG
I love TIG's drop vertice feature when I need to conform a quad web onto a given (usually triangulated) surface below for topography mesh for instance. It works but I lose the quad property of the net.
Is it possible to adapt TIG's code to keep the "quad-ness" while dropping the vertices?If you triangulate the quadmesh (using the triangulate command in QFT) it will work like a charm.
This trick will work also for artisan brush and some other tools which don't "officially" support quads.
triangulate the quad mesh prior to drop vertices to keep the quadness? interesting 
Hello Thomthom
Just an idea for the LINE tool of QFT:
Is it possible to have a LINE tool that always generate quads with NORMALS unified towards the camera?
I don't know how you define the normal orientation for generating quads when you close a quad surface with the line tool. Usually it's pinpoint but sometimes I get reversed normals and with complex mesh the Su genuine "orient surfaces" tool fails.
@thomthom @TIG
I love TIG's drop vertice feature when I need to conform a quad web onto a given (usually triangulated) surface below for topography mesh for instance. It works but I lose the quad property of the net.
Is it possible to adapt TIG's code to keep the "quad-ness" while dropping the vertices?
@panixia said:
Honestly I wasn't trying to propose a workaround, just trying to better "isolate" the problem to give some more clue to Thomas.
Honestly I'm wondering if Thomas actually reads this thread... 
@panixia said:
I confirm this happens when you try to bridge 2 edges which are not coplanar.
doesn't happen if they are more than 2 or if they are 2 but still coplnar.
Thanks!
Ok, so a workaround would be to break/divide the vertices before doing bridge?
Hello Thomthom
I have a question / bug about Bridge.
When I select 2 vertices and ask for Bridge, VT2 generates 2 quads, surimposed.
Example:
I select vertices (1) and (2) and launch bridge
Then VT generates a double quad (3)
How to avoid this?
The first culprit would be update TTlib to the latest version.
You can do it via Extension Manager & update or via Sketchucation Tools, update on th small icon above.
Next would be update of QFT itself. If there's no update sign, try to force the update and see if you still have the error after close and reload SU.
Sometimes I have this kind of error when I launch SU too soon after the PC boot. Just wait 1-2 min after the boot and fire SU. I guess some background routines need to be loaded and in place before launching SU as the plugins rely on these routines?
@dave r said:
@optimaforever said:
I have noticed that regularly my LOTT toolbars don't appear when loading SU.
It seems it's related to updates.Are you still using SketchUp 2017 Pro as indicated in your profile?
Was SketchUp installed correctly? That requires right clicking on the downloaded installer and selecting Run as administrator. If not, there would be issues with folder permissions that could prevent extensions from installing/updating correctly.
I've never had any issues with any of Fredo6's extensions updating and loading correctly. I made sure to install SketchUp correctly on my machines.
Thanks Dave.
I've updated my profile (sorry I use SU since v2.1 circa 2001 so this was pretty obvious for me that I use the latest build but you're right, let's update this ).
I don't think I installed SU as an admin because my Win11 account is an admin account.
I never had any issues prior to this but since Win11 i have had so many bugs...
So you mean that in your case, plugins updates automatically without asking/notifying you?
Hello Fredo
I have noticed that regularly my LOTT toolbars don't appear when loading SU.
It seems it's related to updates.
While I understand that you update your plugins on a regular basis, it's very annoying that essential tools get stuck each time you make an update.
I need to have a guess and try Extension Manager updates (nope), a Sketchucation tools update (nope), a manual reinstall of the LOTT plugin (overwriting) via sketchucation tools (YES)...
At least you could give us a hint when the LOTT toolbars don't appear anymore.
When I don't have a wifi connexion it's a nightmare, I need to open all my plugins toolabr again to have access to the tools I use on a daily basis (and clutter my UI as in the past).
Thanks for the cool essential addon!
Hello Thom
I have a bug I think.
When I try to remove loops QFT leaves hidden vertex that produces unwanted ngons when Subded.
Hi thom!
Is it possible to have 4K screen compliant icons?
On my laptop it's nearly impossible to see the values of the connect edges tools window...
Amazing work ! I admit that the quadface tools+vertextools+subD workflow
is something that I sometimes miss in Fusion360, as it allows some complex
sculpting with ease, and this f2004 is a wonderful demonstration !!!
How can you retrieve the second tile you made in wrapR?
can it save several tiles for one mesh? or you need an workaround?
UDIM workflow is possible in substance painter but I never thought of
doing that with a sketchup-generated mesh.
This is new for me, you’re a genius !
@derei said:
Did anyone else experience that WrapR is deleting SubD edge creasing data?
Personally I use WrapR on a subdivided geometry, so I don’t care but other users send a non subdivided mesh to wrapR and retrieve the wrapped skp and subD it afterwards, so I guess the creasing parameter can become an issue?
Recently I started exporting the mesh as obj via quadfacetools export feature to keep quads towards 3dsmax and use the unwrap modifier.
