I suspect SU keeps refreshing its window as the file loads, and Win 10 jumps to it.

I say this because I have noticed on big file loads (most of mine) the window flickers every now and then, although nothing changes.

I don't switch windows during the file load so I have not seen the jump or pop-up as you stated.

So I started to get a hardon (almost as big as Fredos Animator, soon to be installed!!) and I noticed on the downloads list there is NO Windows 32 bit versions (MAKE in particular).

Is this true, no 32bit versions?

So am I stuck with SU-2016 forever till I win a lottery and can afford a system upgrade?

@zackya07 said:

the easiest way is to open a new sketch up file and copy paste your work.

The only reason this works is because the original drawing extents, if large, affect the zoom and near field clipping threshold.

Simply turning off perspective when zooming in close prevents near field clipping.
Turn it on again when backing out. Just a mouse-click.

Far easier than opening a new SU window, copying and pasting, then having to re-clip and export back the edited version to the original model.

Read my post a few up from this. Turn OFF perspective and you can get a few thousandths of an inch up close. Playing with FOV only creates distortions in your view and doesn't solve the clipping problem.

Thank you Dave.

I looked quickly at Styles, but not at that level below.

The difference is that you have "Display endpoints" turned on, and mine are off.

Now the weird part.
I set my line styles by a toolbar addin that has several types of line styles to select from.
It is supposed to replicate the menu items standard in SU. In this case, VIEW - EDGE STYLES.

But my SU menu does NOT have "Display Endpoints" which is very surprising.

Mind you, I have been using SU for many years and with a lot of addons, to the extent that now I really don't know what many functions are native SU or part of an addon.

![Toolbar "Display Endpoints" not in SU menu](/uploads/imported_attachments/G1ze_Scrn-Cap474.jpg "Toolbar "Display Endpoints" not in SU menu")

Maybe someone else can explain this, but I cannot find "Display Endpoints" in any SU menu.

Here's how I transfer flat shapes onto a curved surface. I do this on my airplane designs to place a very strict outline onto a curved fairing surface. It is far more accurate to draw a curve on a flat face than try to draw that curve on a curve, Fredo Tools on Surface notwithstanding.

The following set of screen caps should explain it. Ask me if you need more info.

Hope that helps.

@dave r said:

I find an inexpensive 3-button mouse much better with SketchUp. My left hand tends to hover over Ctrl and Shift and most of my keyboard shortcuts are on the left end of the keyboard. I've thought about these mice with a ton of buttons but they just get to be larger and take up too much of my desk real estate.

Yeah, me 2 exactly.

I came into a few extra bucks last Nov and bought a wireless 3D mouse. It is now unused more than used. It seems I can pass the "tests" ok, but not have definitive control in my models, so my 3 btn mouse still does the heavy work of pan/zoom. I slowed down the response, that helped a bit. But it is still too sensitive.

I wanted to program the radial menu with a shortcut macro (toggle Draw and Erase tools) but no instructions on how to write and incorporate macros.

There is a calculator but entering numbers does absolutely nothing. There is no numerical display so I would have expected it to display I/O in the VCB, but nada.

Also, as much as it is being pushed on Sketchucation (pro discounts) I am surprised there is no thread that I can find related directly to using the spacemouse.

Makes for a good paperweight though.

Thank you Cotty

I had read elsewhere some of that, but the list of bug fixes was a welcome addition.
Especially the "constrained by" fix. (Drawing lines close to but not on axis). That is one of the most irritating "features" I always encounter in SU.

I assume the list of features/bug fixes apply to both "make" and "pro" unless stated otherwise. Other than Layout, there were very few "pro" items listed.

But I remain in trepidation of having to manually transfer all my preference settings, and pretty much everything else that I can define when changing over.

That seems to me to be a very fundamental function. To upgrade, the user should choose "Install Overwrite" which simply replaces the old with the new and transfers all settings transparently, or "install standalone" as is the case today.

I remain; "on Fence" to upgrade. Probably will, but not now.

Can anyone out there please tell us what's in 2016 make that would make us really want to upgrade from 2015?

So far all I've seen is the Pro version upgrades, and while tempting, I cannot justify spending about CDN$1,000 on it.

Yes, the new inference engine is a powerful inducement, but is that all there is?

Do I still have to install 2016 and MANUALLY transfer all my plugin files, and re-install them, or will 2016 auto transfer all the plugins, toolbar settings, shortcuts, etc. as does just about every other s/w package update does??

It took me almost 2 full days to go from SU-8 to 2015 last year..........

What about drawing file backwards compatibility?

What about known bug fixes? There's a lot....

A "cancel" button or better the ESC-key that simply works on EVERY Ruby action.

I asked about this a long while back and the answer from one of the Ruby Magicians is the the Ruby API does not poll the keyboard during certain operations, so it never sees the ESC key (or any other) and cannot exit a perpetual loop.

I've used RAM disks a long time ago when HD's were really slow. They are great but the main caveat is saving contents to the HD for posterity.
It used to be a manual effort when it was convenient, but I sometimes forgot, or there was a power glitch that rebooted the system.
But perhaps today there are "autosaves" that will copy the files to HD in background. I'm not current in that because I don't use RAM drives; not enough memory and my SSD is fast enough.

Best way to speed up SAVE and AUTOSAVE as well as loading a file is to get a Solid State Drive (SSD) either replacing the C:\ drive or adding/replacing a D:\ drive.

My old spinning HD would typically take over a minute; my SSD takes about 3 - 5 seconds for even bigger files. AutoSaves are almost un-noticeable now.

@olivier1971 said:

Would it be great to be able to group layer?

This has been asked for and ignored in many past versions, so I hold no hope we will see it anytime soon.

There are a few Layer manager plug-ins out there but they don't integrate fully or properly with SU's native layering, so I dropped using them some time back.

I figured as much. thanks.

It is a minor annoyance to be sure, but is there any way to by-pass the SU/Trimbel Welcome screen and open directly into SU?

Like SU 8 used to do?

@jql said:

My wish for 2016 would be that Trimble would hire someone just to try every button and function Sketchup has and find things like:

• Wrong or unexpected behaviours;
• Inconsistent UI;
• Recurrent feature requests;
• Standardization of usual processes;
• Etc...

No need for Trimble to test every button and function. They will not learn much from doing that. SU needs to be worked to discover "bugs" and inconsistencies.

All Trimble and the SU development team needs to do is READ the past posts here and in other SU forums to learn what goes wrong and needs fixing.

I have bitched (and others too) about these problems for years, and they are still with us.

• Near field clipping
• Hyper zoom (click on empty space when panning...)
• Z fighting
• "constrained by..."
  There is a lot more, but only silence from the SU team.

I'm not talking about enhancements and new stuff.
This is OLD stuff that still doesn't work right.

But SU dev has always been far more interested in new bells and whistles for next years SU than in fixing past problems.

@unknownuser said:

I think all we need to resolve this is a modifier key, which if you hold down turns off axis/perpendicular constraints, on move, line and circle tools. I think "Ctrl" is the only obvious key that isn't taken by all those tools. If I understood you correctly....

Seeing as "CTRL" has no effect when drawing a line, I would agree to using it as a modifier key to override the "Constrained" feature.

The "ALT" key could also be used, but in limited testing, I noticed a strange effect of placing a line temporarily in position, sort of.... no time to follow up on this.

And to JQL.....

The "SHIFT" key modifies a line draw to maintain a set vector/direction. It does nothing to prevent "constrained".

@desertraven said:

Okay here it is,

5. !!!!! Give us an override for that obnoxious constraint engine and give us object-snap options already!!!!!!! Try tracing something that's not supposed to be square????? :berserk: :berserk:

Yeah!!!!

Drawing a line from endpoint A to endpoint B should NOT be a crapshoot because B is not exactly on an axis projection. I know that if A to B is "constrained"; ESC then going from B to A works. But that is double work and often the "constrained" message is not forthcoming. So that blows a solid up, and Curviloft goes nuts, followed by a 1/2 hr to sleuth out the error.

Thank you. I can sleep now.