Hehe, yeah my scripts aren't nice enough to check if you have progressbar first. They just crash. Chris

Good to go. Thanks for taking the time to mess with this small stuff, I certainly appreciate it.

@thomthom said: Contact the maker of the plugin and explain what's happening. Yes, I'd seen mention of the problem elsewhere. I thought first just to modify Didier's ruby, but it is incrypted: so I sent a PM to him. Have not heard back.

nah bob.. no sucker punch.. i just found out about it 3 weeks ago or so when i finally upgraded to leopard and read one of those "99 hidden leopard features" type of articles..

Hello Ross - I don't know. I needed to enable the extension to see it in SU7 Pro, and it went away when I turned it off the Ruby Examples and restarted.

Jean, Thank you for your prompt reply. Alas, I don't get what you describe. What I get is a large color wheel with six icons across the top: The trick is that the fourth icon (looks like a brick) reads "Apple" in the little window. It's when you click the little up/down arrows that the whole list of available materials appear! At that point, when you select one of the items in the list, it is as you describe with the left/right arrows, the house and a pull-down list. Thank you for your help in getting me to investigate more closely.