Either that, or search for ThawUp. We're looking closely at this issue. Is ANYONE who's experiencing this NOT on an Intel GMA 950 graphics card? That would include current Mac Mini, older MacBook and one old model of (white) iMac. From what we've heard, booting the same HW on Windows seems to work? Thanks, all, for your help.

Barry
Google

Did you ever get this resolved? We have not observed issues with MacBook Pros, only older MacBooks. Please let us know if this got resoved (sorry - I normally spend time in LayOut forums, not so much SketchUp).

Barry
Google

We're looking closely at this issue. Is ANYONE who's experiencing this NOT on an Intel GMA 950 graphics card? That would include current Mac Mini, older MacBook and one old model of (white) iMac. Thanks!

Barry
Google

@linea said:

Layout is still raster though isn't it? The ability to draw a 0.1 line in Layout would have been great, I cant really see how I can drop cad for Layout yet, much as I'd like to. Or am I missing something?

1. If you have LayOut, you should be able to find the "Vector" pulldown.
2. LayOut, in it's current implementation, is not meant to replace cad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OQFFgO0KaQ0 lists the three top reasons to use LayOut.

Barry

Compare the rendered model in LayOut to the File->Export 2D and export to png in SketchUp. When you do that in SketchUp, do the gray bands appear in the png file? And does it match LayOut?

Barry

In File->Document Setup->Paper, keep rendering resolution low while editing, then increase it for final printing. It'll tax any machine to take an Arch D or E paper with large models. You can also get the CPU going when you're in edit mode on text fields or models - what's really happening is that you're firing up a SketchUp Viewer, and when you exit the model you're asking for a 2D export of that model. That's a bit of work. You can also purge unused things from time to time - File->Document Setup->References and hit the "Purge" button.

We are working on better performance. Thanks for the feedback.

Barry

PC, not Mac, I'm presuming? I tried to recreate this, and I'm seeing it, too. Here's what I did:

1. Place the box on a page.
2. Double click on the "1" to change to a "2".
   Problem 1: The text jumps to the left. Known issue with LayOut 1, and part of why LayOut 1 is still in beta.
   Problem 2: I type a "2", and the text disappears. It's there, it's just that the text box is now sized incorrectly. To fix, I right clicked and ungrouped, then grabbed the edge of the text box and moved it to the right. The 2 reappeared. Selecting both and regrouping gave me what I wanted.

Yea, ugly, I know. It will be (actually is - just not in your hands yet) fixed.

Barry

erps, obviously on Mac it's LayOut->Preferences or cmd-, like all Mac apps.

Barry

Edit -> Preferences on Mac or PC are to change the template. To go around having a template selected and pick a new one just for one time, choose File->New from Template. This menu item doesn't appear if you have a default template selected.

Barry

For the sake of the group, can you explain (a) what graphics card is in your computer, (b) what software OS version was on your computer, and (c) what update you performed to get rid of the problem. Thanks.

Barry

OK, so I didn't totally convince you. Yes, that's not an unreasonable request that "locking means locking". Noted.

Barry

And an update on mine: I ran about 6 hours of automated tests against one of my models. Mine only had about 100K polygons (75 MB skp file), and I made random selections and orbits, at different speeds, but I used the orbit tool and not the middle mouse down orbit. I didn't play with double click delay time, but what did you use double click for in this sequence?

And please, another appeal to all: let us know how things work for you after either the 10.5.3 update or if you stay with 10.5.2 for any reason, after the Leopard Graphics Update. Thanks!

Barry

Well, it's a feature, not a bug . You can have someone in your firm develop templates, but when you hand those templates off to someone, they may need to modify some things, such as pages, dates, etc... but you don't want them to edit the fields and move them, messing up the nice look of the template. Voila - you can edit the text, but not change the geometry/location. Convinced?

Barry

and when you mean "large models", how large, in terms of faces and size? If I was to reproduce this, is there a model publicly available, that would come close - 3dwarehouse or elsewhere? Thanks.

Barry

Thanks for the report. If you noticed, 10.5.3 is out, and if you haven't done the Leopard Graphics Update, you can forgo that and just update to 10.5.3. We've been unable to reproduce this, but we'll see if your steps help. Thanks a bunch.

Barry

A few answers in reverse order:

3. We've thought about what the right amount / size of templates would be, and we could add lots in large sizes, but it becomes a matter of what value do we deliver for the increased product size. I think the feeling was that it's not too hard to create (File->Save as Template and then you get exactly what you want), but I guess you'd vote for more. We'll note that.

4. We have a bug filed on this.

5. We've observed similar things in rare situations, and one of the cases seems to involve printing to a non-default printer. Sometimes, simply opening Page Setup and opening the Printer panel was enough to fix incomplete page printing.

I've pinged a couple of resources at HP to try to reproduce any of these. As always, another workaround is PDF export and printing from Acrobat.

Barry

Is this a poetry contest? But this is 4-1-3 instead of traditional haiku 5-7-5. OK, I'll try.

SketchUp text hide.
but.
LayOut prints.

I like this better:

SketchUp text layered.
Hide the layer, launch LayOut.
Print text from LayOut.

OK, have I set the bar low enough for you for your great poetry to exceed mine?

Barry

Shawn, let us know if you got this working.

For others, there is a problem with some mail systems that take a look at a .layout file and, realizing it's a zip file, do you the wonderful favor of unzipping it. Thank you not at all. But both Mac and PC have built-in zip capability. Since Shawn was on Mac, to re-zip and make a LayOut document:

1. In Finder, select the files (things like doc_thumbnail.png, document.xml, documentProperties.xml, references.xml, styleManager.xml and the directories pages and ref).

2. Right click on this selection, and choose "Compress X Items" where X = # of items you selected. For 10.4 (Tiger), I believe it says "Create Archive" instead. Either way, you now have a file called "Archive.zip"

3. Rename "Archive.zip" to your original file name .layout (answer yes to "are you sure"), and voila, it's a LayOut document.

Barry

When licensing questions like this arise, please contact sales: http://sketchup.google.com/support/bin/request.py?customer=supro&contact_type=sales

Thanks.

Barry

Hey, Jorgensen - just to be complete, I ran SketchUp and LayOut on a Vista 64 system. There's nothing different there than other OS's, and if you look at SketchUp Help and search on "Image Resolution", you'll find:

...the resolution of Image Objects is limited to the largest texture that OpenGL can handle. For most systems this limit is 1024 x 1024 pixels. This should be sufficient for most purposes, but if higher resolution is required, you can always stitch together multiple Image Objects.

So you did the right thing (glad you found the better way) and sorry I didn't help quicker with your original question.

Barry