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    • C Offline
      Charlie__V
      last edited by

      Mr S,
      I too am curious about Google being quiet on this.

      For the heck of it, can you try rendering your model with the sky & Ground OFF.
      I was able to get much higher pix without them.
      I know it is a workaround, but possibly rendering the model seperate from sky & ground....then re-marry the two in photoshop.

      Charlie

      Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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        Mr S
        last edited by

        Hi,

        Sky, Ground and anti-alias all switched off.
        Still get the error. Grrr!!

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          toxicvoxel
          last edited by

          I too can confirm that I frequently get this error with or without AA.
          Model complexity & size has something to do with it. Typically things start to go wrong in the 4500-5000px wide range(aa-off) 6000-700 (aa-on).
          This has happened on two machines including the latest (2.3GH dualcore/ quadro fx 1600 /2 GB RAM) machine.

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            glenn
            last edited by

            I too have this problem usualy around 8000px.
            Seems to be a version 6 (and all it's updates) problem?
            Appears to me that Google is ignoring the problem?
            Glenn
            SU 64112
            2mg ram
            DC 2.8
            XP

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              pmiller
              last edited by

              @mr s said:

              Hi pmiller,

              Well, this is very strange.
              I have just tried rendering with anti-aliasing switched off and it made no difference.
              Still getting the 'file failed to save' error.

              Any further ideas?

              Mr S

              Hmmm - wish I could help. Just tried it again with a model with 600K faces, 125K edges, 10,000 components at 9000 pixels, shadows, textures. No problems.

              6.4.112
              XPSP2
              Dual Core 3.4 Ghz
              2 Gb RAM
              Quadro FX 1500

              Are you exporting jpg highest quality or some other raster format? Are you using one of the newer styles with sketchy edges?

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                Charlie__V
                last edited by

                Anyone care to try this (attached) file and share your results.
                My Results:
                AA off,export to .jpg.......I max out at 6500 pix. wide
                AA off, export to .tif......I max out at 1800 pix. wide
                best,
                Charlie


                RENDER TEST FILE.skp

                Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                  pmiller
                  last edited by

                  9000 pixels to jpg highest quality - no problems. Also same 9000 to png.

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                    richcat
                    last edited by

                    I tried this out of interest.
                    I very very rarely use this as nearly all my work is rendered.
                    Results
                    AA off,export highest quality to .jpg.......I max out at 9770 pix. wide. The max I have ever used is 3000
                    AA off, export to .tif......I max out at 2140 pix. wide.

                    Richcat

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                      sorgesu
                      last edited by

                      Before V5 I was exporting PNg & Epix at 9999 without any problems. Since V5 I have had problems saving such large files. I tried this particular file with the follwoing results>

                      AA OFF JPG 9999 OKAY
                      AA OFF PNG 9999 OKAY
                      AA OFF EPIX 9999 OKAY
                      AA ON JPG 9999 RUNTIME ERROR
                      Triead again and got Runtime Error Again.

                      I think the complexity of the model has something to do with it as well. This is fairly simple and is not saving as a very large file. I beleive with a very large complex structure I would be less likely to save at 9999

                      Susan Sorger
                      Former Seller Hand Rendered Entourage
                      Former Canadian Authorized Training Centre, SketchUp

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                        tinanne
                        last edited by

                        I also have this problem, but have found that this is not an issue if upscaling in PS.

                        I always export to .png @ 3000px with AA on. Then in PS I upscale dpi to 300, which is the lowest a printer would want anyway (SU defaults to 72dpi, if I'm not mistaken). This should be fine for what you need and most likely will need to be downsized.

                        Executive Director : American Society of Architectural Illustrators
                        AIP 30 Competition opens soon. ASAI.org

                        Architectural Rendering

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                          glenn
                          last edited by

                          Looks like I'm going to have to retract my earlier post.
                          The test render file exported to jpeg at 9000p with aa off.
                          I tried a recent model, 12meg, also went fine at 9000p aa off.
                          Glenn
                          SU 64112
                          DC 2.8
                          2mg
                          nvidia geforce 6200se tc 256mg
                          xp

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                            Mr S
                            last edited by

                            Hi,

                            Just tried rendering the Charlie_V test file.
                            The best I could get was 7000px with AA switched off.

                            I loaded up my original file which is a lot more complicated and was only able to get 4000px wide (also, I have shadows disabled). So, there does seem to be a number of factors at work here.
                            However, it seems stange that we are getting a variety of results from different people with machine specs similar to each other.
                            I rendered JPEG images using Vray and had no problem producing large files.
                            But as mentioned previously, Vray can write the image to disk rather than hold everything in RAM.

                            Any other thoughts?

                            Mr S

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                              Anssi
                              last edited by

                              I wonder if maybe the working environment has something to do with the export results too. At work, in a networked environment, I get different results than at home. Writing big images to a network folder often fails, or I get corrupt files, and exporting to the desktop works better. These problems happen only with rel. 6, not with v.4. Version 4 and older only have the AA issue, maxing at about 3000 pixels wide with AA on.

                              Anssi

                              securi adversus homines, securi adversus deos rem difficillimam adsecuti sunt, ut illis ne voto quidem opus esset

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                                Jean Lemire
                                last edited by

                                Hi Mr S, hi folks.

                                For a JPG export with anti aliasing off, I can go as far as 7493 horizontal pixels (6636 vertical) with Windows XP-Pro on Pentium 4, 2.6 GHz, 2 Gigs RAM.

                                I will try on my Mac at home to get a comparison.

                                Just ideas.

                                Jean (Johnny) Lemire from Repentigny, Quebec, Canada.

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                                  toan76
                                  last edited by

                                  I always have the same problem with exporting images larger than 3000 wide. Given the model is quite complex, about 60MB. SU5 works sometimes. SU6 is worse. My computer isn't a sewing machine either, a quad-core with 4GB of RAM and a QuadroFX 3500, running XP64.

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                                    Charlie__V
                                    last edited by

                                    Hey all,

                                    Thanks to all those that gave it a go, and any who have not, please continue.

                                    Given the small sampling of participants & simple file....Results are more or less as expected.(for me anyway).....Varied, and it appears not hardware specific.

                                    I am no programmer....just curious.
                                    Best,
                                    Charlie

                                    Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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                                      Daniel
                                      last edited by

                                      Dejavu....I remember posting on an earlier thread dealing with this same issue, along with the Google folks who informed us they were looking into the problem.

                                      I played around with a simple model on both SU Pro versions 5 and 6. The maximum image I've been able to export is 4000 pixels wide, AA on, jpeg quality at it's highest. However, changing my virtual memory from 2000/10000 MB to 5000/10000 MB I was able to export an image at 5000 pixels with AA on, and 7000 with AA off. Bumping my virtual memory up to 9000/20000 MB I was able to export an image at 9000 pixels with AA off.

                                      My avatar is an anachronism.

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                                        toxicvoxel
                                        last edited by

                                        Thanks for the input Daniel - that seems to do the trick.

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                                          richcat
                                          last edited by

                                          Cheers Daniel 😄

                                          Richcat

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                                            Charlie__V
                                            last edited by

                                            Daniel,
                                            Thanks for the advice on the pagefile limit increase, which did help some.& much apreciated!

                                            But........and always a but......right.
                                            On both my Laptop & Desktop I am limited to 4096 max. pagefile.
                                            Given both machines are a few years old(2gig ram)....& not overly computer savvy......why is SU quick to use "vitual"/pagefile memory for such a task?

                                            BTW Daniel......this question is not directed @ you...... just me thinking aloud.

                                            Best,

                                            Charlie

                                            Precision M1710/Win 7 Pro 64 bit/i-7 6920 Quad core 2.9 Ghz -3.8/16Gb ram/NVIDIA M5000M 8Gb

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