So what's in 6.4.112?
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A forced upgrade that doesn't even have the correct release notes on the site it directs you to is inexcusable. It means you MUST upgrade if you want to use SketchUp Pro 6 AND be connected to the internet...
I suspect that Google doesn't have any hidden motives in doing this - it's some inept dork must have written some code wrong... BUT 'they' have responsibilty for their products and services. This level of ineptitude is pretty worrying. Google as a company expect us to trust them with our potentially sensitive personal data, BUT they can't get a simple upgrade tool right - when will it come out that something far worse has happened... This has echoes of the UK's Tax Dept losing unencrypted CDs 'in the post' that contained the names, addresses, bank account details etc of almost half the UK's population - including millions of vulnerable children - and they bang on indentity theft, ID-cards to 'protect' us from the terrorists, and about their 'data protection act' laws etc, BUT they can't keep our details safe by using basic common sense !
Google MUST buck up OR loose our confidence completely - it's already dented !
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the download in the link posted above does have the update and as TIG said the release notes are not updated yet.. and it installed fine for me
tom.. do u have a recurring problem with the new update as such? can it be reproduced???
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Watching this 54mb monster download reminded me of the magic of the original SkUps at 1/5th the size. One still faintly feels the magic of that once simple and intuitive original, but it is sadly being buried alive...Wonder what Brad and the rest of the old gang are up to now? Probably under some gag order...
Oh well,
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I don't know guys, I just had the "regular" update information:
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This is a horrible tactic from Google. I will CHOOSE when i update my sotware. I like to ensure it is stable first and often leave it to hear feedback from other users (on all software not just SU) I've sat here this morning trying despirately to find out how to work around this and have subsequently resorted to working offline to get my work done.
The lack of preparation highlighted by others here also shows a complete lack of understanding of how to respect your users. VERY poor from somebody like Google.
Shocking move and one that @last would never have agreed to.
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Thanks to GSU Team!
When i working with acad 2008(i don`t know, something changes my profile, not stable...)and change autosave function to 2007 version. So i can open 2007 acad dwgs!!!!Maybe will be rel.notes about minor bugfixes?
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I can´t use SketchUp more! i donwload the update but i can´t install it!
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Daniel it's like broken archive, uncorreted filesize...i think need to re-download it...
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I've already sent an email to Brad.
Guys, please, be patient a bit - I'm sure they're going to fix this soon.And thanks for all this input here (this is what makes this community such a great resource for the SUTeam, I guess
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Yesterday I also had to choose between updating or closing SU, I didn't even think of working offline, so I updated. Luckily so far I haven't notice any problems but being that this was basically a "forced" upgrade (bad decision), I wonder if myself and other users find this new version problematic, if we can "downgrade" to the previous version?
Mike
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I agree, I'm not happy with a forced update.
I like to decide when /if I upgrade.
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i tihnk a forced update is fine for tihngs like this, mostly bug fixes etc, but onyl when it works! seeing as it obviously isn't for a lot of ppl i tihnk they should pull the upgrade and get it working properly before they let people download it again.
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Hi Guys, we're looking into the problem. The upgrade was/is intended to be a choice just like all earlier upgrades.
We will get to the bottom of this as soon as possible.
We still are the AtLast guys, we still deeply care about you and your user experience, and consider how any/every change affects you. Please do not take a problem with the updater as any indication of our dedication to you as Google. Unforeseen problems do occur, and we will figure this out as soon as we can.
Thanks for your patience!
Cheers,
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Not cool Google!
Now that my heart is started again. Came in this weekend to finish a presentation for monday AM. The forced download was a new one, only the first 2 times i tried to run it i only had options to repair modify or remove sketchup. Ran the repair option and still had the forced update when i restarted. Freaked out at that point and uninstalled sketchup and eventally rolled back windows a few days. Still no love. Third time was the charm. Thank goodness for this forum. I was about to haul our IT guy out of bed. hehe.
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Stu, harsh...yes, absolutely (I was pissed! first forced suddenly to download an update at bedtime so I could add the finishing touch to the rendering I was working on...then having the program be so pitifully unresponsive and, yes, cruel.) Negative...no, just truthful...I think. (And yes, I'm excited about the sketchy edge creator, as I have lately been delighted with what they add to my DWC's...but the program will have to start performing better before I get into it.)
Okay, the technical stuff:
First, my little laptop is no wienie...128meg ATI Radeon Mobility, 1.6gig Pentium M, 2gigs ram.
The model is huge...22meg, 300,000 faces, 250 components, etc. In SU5, changing display settings takes 1-3sec per change (but as you would expect the program does catch up even though I hit several buttons before waiting). In SU6, the delay has been running 3-5sec per display change (did another view of the same unchanged model just a couple of days ago, so fresh in my mind), and was going to the white arrow before I could hit all the buttons...though nothing I was able to activate was lost).
Using the update, SU6m4, all the wait times were doubled, button pushed and showing depressed made no change to the display, the export dialog stopped going away even after I had the black arrow, and I couldn't get the Window's Image Viewer to overtake the screen (to see if I actually did get my export) without minimizing SU...the second time I tried this the program locked. (All of the above problems were recreated after my restart...but I was quite "determined" by 1AM and made it thru my desired exports the third time.)
It has been my experience that SU6 is a fuller featured program than hasn't the functionality and stability of SU5...so I continue to use 5 every day, and 6 only when I absolutely have to have one of those new features. I am now more than wondering if there are rubies out there for SU5 that can do the cool extra stuff I want at times...?
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...people are frantically looking around for an alternative.
yes
but getting to this point, and in behalf of my health I´m assuming not to investigate any more, accept the end point of this software, forget about its development and work with its 4th version.Google and his employees here are taking us as fools.
How can it be said that ...We still are the AtLast guys, we still deeply care about you and your user experience, and consider how any/every change affects you...
Who on earth in this community asked for the style builder ?
There were lots of things asked before without response or care for the users.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
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I did not wanted to upgrade, closed the access of SU to internet with the firewall, and it stopped asking.
Craig, most SU moves seems to act oppositly to your friendly speech.
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Stu...sorry! I'm quite dense when my head is about to explode. Reread your post and LOL! (Would have help my mood bunches too if I hadn't completely missed your point then skimmed the last paragraph :`)
Wasn't there an edge modifier ruby, or am I just remembering a wish?
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It seems to work as it should now - I am downloading it at the moment. For me it showed the "download now" and "remind me later" buttons as it should.
But there should be the option of turning upgrade notifications off in Preferences. At work users have limited rights, and upgrades must be done by the IT staff, so the notifications only serve to confuse users.
Anssi
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Tom,
I'm glad someone is using the style builder.
The point I was making is that it would be nice if Google directed their obviously limited resources to getting SU6 right rather than playing around on the periphery.
It's all rather a pity but there seems to be a growing consensus that Google is doing a fine job of stuffing SU and that people are frantically looking around for an alternative.
The obsessive, fanatically loyal user base that used to surround SketchUp, seems to me, to be evaporating fast.
Stu
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