So what's in 6.4.112?
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This is a horrible tactic from Google. I will CHOOSE when i update my sotware. I like to ensure it is stable first and often leave it to hear feedback from other users (on all software not just SU) I've sat here this morning trying despirately to find out how to work around this and have subsequently resorted to working offline to get my work done.
The lack of preparation highlighted by others here also shows a complete lack of understanding of how to respect your users. VERY poor from somebody like Google.
Shocking move and one that @last would never have agreed to.
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Thanks to GSU Team!
When i working with acad 2008(i don`t know, something changes my profile, not stable...)and change autosave function to 2007 version. So i can open 2007 acad dwgs!!!!Maybe will be rel.notes about minor bugfixes?
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I can´t use SketchUp more! i donwload the update but i can´t install it!
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Daniel it's like broken archive, uncorreted filesize...i think need to re-download it...
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I've already sent an email to Brad.
Guys, please, be patient a bit - I'm sure they're going to fix this soon.And thanks for all this input here (this is what makes this community such a great resource for the SUTeam, I guess
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Yesterday I also had to choose between updating or closing SU, I didn't even think of working offline, so I updated. Luckily so far I haven't notice any problems but being that this was basically a "forced" upgrade (bad decision), I wonder if myself and other users find this new version problematic, if we can "downgrade" to the previous version?
Mike
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I agree, I'm not happy with a forced update.
I like to decide when /if I upgrade.
Glenn -
i tihnk a forced update is fine for tihngs like this, mostly bug fixes etc, but onyl when it works! seeing as it obviously isn't for a lot of ppl i tihnk they should pull the upgrade and get it working properly before they let people download it again.
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Hi Guys, we're looking into the problem. The upgrade was/is intended to be a choice just like all earlier upgrades.
We will get to the bottom of this as soon as possible.
We still are the AtLast guys, we still deeply care about you and your user experience, and consider how any/every change affects you. Please do not take a problem with the updater as any indication of our dedication to you as Google. Unforeseen problems do occur, and we will figure this out as soon as we can.
Thanks for your patience!
Cheers,
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Not cool Google!
Now that my heart is started again. Came in this weekend to finish a presentation for monday AM. The forced download was a new one, only the first 2 times i tried to run it i only had options to repair modify or remove sketchup. Ran the repair option and still had the forced update when i restarted. Freaked out at that point and uninstalled sketchup and eventally rolled back windows a few days. Still no love. Third time was the charm. Thank goodness for this forum. I was about to haul our IT guy out of bed. hehe.
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Stu, harsh...yes, absolutely (I was pissed! first forced suddenly to download an update at bedtime so I could add the finishing touch to the rendering I was working on...then having the program be so pitifully unresponsive and, yes, cruel.) Negative...no, just truthful...I think. (And yes, I'm excited about the sketchy edge creator, as I have lately been delighted with what they add to my DWC's...but the program will have to start performing better before I get into it.)
Okay, the technical stuff:
First, my little laptop is no wienie...128meg ATI Radeon Mobility, 1.6gig Pentium M, 2gigs ram.
The model is huge...22meg, 300,000 faces, 250 components, etc. In SU5, changing display settings takes 1-3sec per change (but as you would expect the program does catch up even though I hit several buttons before waiting). In SU6, the delay has been running 3-5sec per display change (did another view of the same unchanged model just a couple of days ago, so fresh in my mind), and was going to the white arrow before I could hit all the buttons...though nothing I was able to activate was lost).
Using the update, SU6m4, all the wait times were doubled, button pushed and showing depressed made no change to the display, the export dialog stopped going away even after I had the black arrow, and I couldn't get the Window's Image Viewer to overtake the screen (to see if I actually did get my export) without minimizing SU...the second time I tried this the program locked. (All of the above problems were recreated after my restart...but I was quite "determined" by 1AM and made it thru my desired exports the third time.)
It has been my experience that SU6 is a fuller featured program than hasn't the functionality and stability of SU5...so I continue to use 5 every day, and 6 only when I absolutely have to have one of those new features. I am now more than wondering if there are rubies out there for SU5 that can do the cool extra stuff I want at times...?
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...people are frantically looking around for an alternative.
yes
but getting to this point, and in behalf of my health I´m assuming not to investigate any more, accept the end point of this software, forget about its development and work with its 4th version.Google and his employees here are taking us as fools.
How can it be said that ...We still are the AtLast guys, we still deeply care about you and your user experience, and consider how any/every change affects you...
Who on earth in this community asked for the style builder ?
There were lots of things asked before without response or care for the users.
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
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I did not wanted to upgrade, closed the access of SU to internet with the firewall, and it stopped asking.
Craig, most SU moves seems to act oppositly to your friendly speech.
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Stu...sorry! I'm quite dense when my head is about to explode. Reread your post and LOL! (Would have help my mood bunches too if I hadn't completely missed your point then skimmed the last paragraph :`)
Wasn't there an edge modifier ruby, or am I just remembering a wish?
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It seems to work as it should now - I am downloading it at the moment. For me it showed the "download now" and "remind me later" buttons as it should.
But there should be the option of turning upgrade notifications off in Preferences. At work users have limited rights, and upgrades must be done by the IT staff, so the notifications only serve to confuse users.
Anssi
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Tom,
I'm glad someone is using the style builder.
The point I was making is that it would be nice if Google directed their obviously limited resources to getting SU6 right rather than playing around on the periphery.
It's all rather a pity but there seems to be a growing consensus that Google is doing a fine job of stuffing SU and that people are frantically looking around for an alternative.
The obsessive, fanatically loyal user base that used to surround SketchUp, seems to me, to be evaporating fast.
Stu
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My computer is no speed demon, and the performance of the new version is noticeably slower. Consider me disappointed. CB.
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Hey Everyone,
You think you're upset you should see it from our side. This is an unintentional error, we never in a million years would force you to upgrade. This product is yours not our, upgrade or don't upgrade that is your choice.
It was a process error that is the long and short of it. I'd be upset too if I was forced to upgrade software I used on a daily bases. When I get the FireFox update notices it's my choice not theirs. It is merely a suggestion on their behalf just like it is with us.
So here's the deal; this page, http://sketchup.google.com/gsu6/download.html leading to this page http://sketchup.google.com/gsu6/relnotes.html after clicking on the release notes link is wrong. Shame on us. The information on these pages are correct: Win= http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ajg9d7mmp8rt_4gp925h and Mac= http://docs.google.com/View?docid=ajg9d7mmp8rt_5dfz7c6
I'm sorry for your pain and suffering you have endured over the last day. Please know we meant no disservice or disrespect. I was merely a mistake on our behalf.
The good news is the problem has been fixed. So upgrade or don't upgrade that's up to you. M4 is geared towards supporting Leopard and AutoCAD DWG 2007 import/export.
If I had a magic time eraser I'd use it now and erase time back to at least the middle of last week to make sure this problem didn't happen. Rest assure we will work on trying to guarantee this never happens again.
If you have further comments about this please post them and voice your opinion.
Remember I make my living from SketchUp too.
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Brad, Thank you for the links and the explanation.
I appreciate your attention to the problem and the response.
Have a great day!
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I successfully downloaded and installed the update and loaded a 6 meg model. It does seem faster and a little smoother, but the awful black screen-fast feedback problem is still there when I tried turning on Fast Feedback. I wish you would fix that or work with Nvidia engineers to help them fix their drivers.
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