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    • HornOxxH Offline
      HornOxx
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      @dave r said:

      ...and probably even longer in German. 😄
      which is true ❗ ❗ 😄 😄 and since we love to assemble new (unpronounceable even to us!) words from existing ones, we often create word monsters like the fun proposal below 😄 and btw - one more reason to only allow English installations on my and our machines...


      tag.jpg

      never trust a skinny cook

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      • HornOxxH Offline
        HornOxx
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        @kaas said:

        @HornOxx you're missing the 'tag' - I like the font though 😉
        Sichtbarkeitseigenschaftenkenzeichnungskontrollemarkierung

        so great and wow - your´s is much much better 😛 😄 and the font, hmm, I couldn´t resist playing with the cliché here 😆 😆

        never trust a skinny cook

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        • HornOxxH Offline
          HornOxx
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          @tig said:

          I wanted to rename 'Layer' to 'Tig' rather than to 'Tag'... but there were not many supporters !...
          Tig, you got my vote !!!

          never trust a skinny cook

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          • andybotA Offline
            andybot
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            Exciting 😐 Seems like SU is almost caught up to FormZ circa 2000 with the ability to hide objects. So glad I didn't renew my maintenance after 2017. Layers = Tags... I can't even.

            Anyone want to guess which version of ACAD LT I'm still using? 💚

            http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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            • F Offline
              faust07
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              Oder wie der Sachse sagt: "Dig, Dag und Digedag"... 😎
              (Cover of the first issue of a comic magazine from the 1950s of the former GDR)


              Dig-Dag-Digedag_01.jpg

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              • david_hD Offline
                david_h
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                @andybot said:

                Exciting 😐 Seems like SU is almost caught up to FormZ circa 2000 with the ability to hide objects. So glad I didn't renew my maintenance after 2017. Layers = Tags... I can't even.

                Anyone want to guess which version of ACAD LT I'm still using? 💚

                IT seems that from the release email I just got that visibilty and nomenclature are about the only major changes. correct? One thing that I have asked for since v.3 (!) yes i have been around that long! is when working in a group or component with nested groups, etc is the abilty to hide or reveal only the next object up in the nested tree. Maybe the new outliner will allow for this. I dunno. I have never really gotten in to OL because of that so maybe this will help.

                Gotta check it out.

                D

                If I make it look easy...It is probably easy

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                • D Offline
                  DentalEZ
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                  This is a plug that I’ve used for a while now that uses the word “Layers” called “Make Name Group”. It’s a great little plug in that does what it says, I can name it and place the items on any layer I have in my drawing. Not sure who’s the author but I hope they updated it.

                  My other question is with the outliner. I use this all the time to name all my object from the default name so I can find things easier. But as I found out the hard way V-Ray does not like (Nor Recommend) you have the outliner panels open when using their plug-ins. Saving a drawings can take a very long time when I forget to close it.

                  Same with Scatter it does not like the outliner or the components panel open. Has or will these issues be resolved with these vendors do we know?


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                  • TIGT Offline
                    TIG Moderator
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                    The purely visual renaming of 'Layers' into 'Tags' should work seamlessly in most cases...
                    Obviously the specific plugin you referred to should consider replace 'Layer' with 'Tag' in its dialog - if the SketchUp version is >= 20 ...
                    But it should still work - 'below the hood' some checks might fail - like 'layer-name' if the default 'Layer0' has been renamed and accessed directly through the API...

                    We need feedback...

                    TIG

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                    • D Offline
                      DentalEZ
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                      Like most people I am to busy right now to do the upgrade for our company and i want to play with it before i do it there. I'll have to play with it over the weekend at home on my own version of SKU, but i'll let you know what happens.

                      I should be able to work with both 2019 and 2020, Right?

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
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                        @dentalez said:

                        This is a plug that I’ve used for a while now that uses the word “Layers” called “Make Name Group”. It’s a great little plug in that does what it says, I can name it and place the items on any layer I have in my drawing. Not sure who’s the author but I hope they updated it.

                        My other question is with the outliner.

                        I don't see a first question. If it's about the dialog box from the extension displaying the word "Layer", you might be able to edit the extension to say "Tag" but the author should do that. It really makes no difference, though, as long as you know.

                        @unknownuser said:

                        and place the items on any layer I have in my drawing.

                        You don't put objects on layers. Layers, not Tags, get assigned to components and groups.

                        @dentalez said:

                        Has or will these issues be resolved with these vendors do we know?

                        I expect the vendors will need to deal with it.

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                        • G Offline
                          Glenn at home
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                          @dentalez said:

                          ...

                          I should be able to work with both 2019 and 2020, Right?

                          My 19 and 20 are working side by side.

                          SketchUp Pro 2024/2025 Dell XPS 8950 i9-12900K 64GB Ram RTX 3080

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                          • D Offline
                            DentalEZ
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                            @unknownuser said:

                            I don't see a first question

                            Guess I need to reword it, but yes the 1st question is about this plugin i am hoping that the author sees this responds about upgrading it. 😄

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I expect the vendors will need to deal with it.

                            Yes, I am hoping for a response from the community on these issues also. maybe someone has heard something or will.

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                            • kenK Offline
                              ken
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                              I have the program Toolbars from Jim Foltz. The last two Sketchup updates, somehow I got it to work, however, with this version of Sketchup I haven't been able to get it to work.

                              Below is an image of the four toolbars I created. I really would like someone to show or tell me how to get these options again.

                              I think but not sure that Jim hasn't done any coding for some time. Making my own set of commands was very helpful.


                              IMG_20200129_183250 (1).jpg

                              Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                              • Dave RD Offline
                                Dave R
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                                I don't have that extension from Jim and I don't believe it's available anymore so I can't help you. It's entirely possible it won't work in SU2020 but I can't test it to tell you.

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                                • jujuJ Offline
                                  juju
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                                  @ken said:

                                  I have the program Toolbars from Jim Foltz. The last two Sketchup updates, somehow I got it to work, however, with this version of Sketchup I haven't been able to get it to work.

                                  Below is an image of the four toolbars I created. I really would like someone to show or tell me how to get these options again.

                                  I think but not sure that Jim hasn't done any coding for some time. Making my own set of commands was very helpful.

                                  Toolbar Editor will be able to do that, it's also listed as SU2020 compatible.

                                  Save the Earth, it's the only planet with chocolate.

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                                  • kenK Offline
                                    ken
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                                    @juju said:

                                    @ken said:

                                    I have the program Toolbars from Jim Foltz. The last two Sketchup updates, somehow I got it to work, however, with this version of Sketchup I haven't been able to get it to work.

                                    Below is an image of the four toolbars I created. I really would like someone to show or tell me how to get these options again.

                                    I think but not sure that Jim hasn't done any coding for some time. Making my own set of commands was very helpful.

                                    Toolbar Editor will be able to do that, it's also listed as SU2020 compatible.

                                    Thank you for the information. However, the Toolbar editor only shows icons from pluins. Jim's program takes icons that Sketchup has but are not visible in the download. I know you can get copy/paste in place in the edit menu, but in my toolbar, I have two icons to do this operation. Also "shown hidden, hide and unhide" are also very useful.

                                    And I have an icon called toggle Axis, hide unhide/unhide axis, another icon called display construction geometry.

                                    Not sure why Sketchup has these icons hidden.

                                    Darn, double darn.

                                    Again thank you juju

                                    Fight like your the third monkey on Noah's Ark gangway.

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                                    • Dave RD Offline
                                      Dave R
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                                      @juju said:

                                      Toolbar Editor will be able to do that, it's also listed as SU2020 compatible.

                                      Although extensions may not list the newest version in their compatibility list that doesn't indicate they won't work. As it is, Toolbar Editor is listed as compatible with 2020.
                                      Screenshot - 1_30_2020 , 6_36_07 AM.png

                                      @ken said:

                                      Not sure why Sketchup has these icons hidden.

                                      Is it possible you just don't have the correct toolbars displayed? Or that an extension is creating the icon?

                                      You cam make your own custom toolbars for native tools that have native icons without an extension in SketchUp on Windows.

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                                      • C Offline
                                        chrisjk
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                                        My 3Dconnexion Space mouse is not working with 2020 - works fine in 2018 and 2019

                                        Chris

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                                        • Dave RD Offline
                                          Dave R
                                          last edited by

                                          This isn't a SketchUp problem. It's the same thing every time there's a new version of SketchUp. The 3D Connexion devices don't work because the drivers you installed before aren't set up to recognize the new version. Go to their site and download the latest drivers and install them. Hopefully the 3D Connexion folks are on it. If not, you can find the associated files in SketchUp 2019's user Plugins folder and copy them to the same location for SU2020.

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                                          • hellnbakH Offline
                                            hellnbak
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                                            Ok, so I'm still using 2015, and am pleased overall with it. I use very few plugins, do little architectural work, just basic SU stuff. Is there anything about any of the newer versions that might be of benefit to me?

                                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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