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    • ntxdaveN 離線
      ntxdave
      最後由 編輯

      Yes, I was able to go in and manually start combining things but it takes a lot of work and I did not do the whole thing. Because of the shape of the bars and overlapping them, you have to erase some edges and it takes time.

      Still sees like the idea would be to draw a series of lines in the configuration you want and then use the Profile Builder 1 Pro that you have to create the whole thing in one shot.

      Press F1...thank me later

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      • BoxB 離線
        Box
        最後由 編輯

        Maybe I'm missing something, but isn't it a few minutes work with follow me?

        Edit: Just noticed your comment about it being about whole cars not just this one job, so ignore me.


        Bar.JPG

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        • KrisidiousK 離線
          Krisidious
          最後由 編輯

          Yes, the line and follow me with profile builder is how this was built, but that's not the goal, to be able to build it. It's to be able to convert it in to a connected shape when it's not currently.

          These are low poly existing models. They need to be converted to higher poly models.

          Now, if you could make a plugin that found the centers of each bar... that would be just as good if not better.

          By: Kristoff Rand
          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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          • KrisidiousK 離線
            Krisidious
            最後由 編輯

            Yeah, I know I can do it manually... I was wanting to attack the problem, as it is common in converting low poly cars to high poly.

            here ya go... don't waste too much time on it. It's not a job or anything.

            rollbar.skp

            By: Kristoff Rand
            Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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            • pilouP 離線
              pilou
              最後由 編輯

              @unknownuser said:

              a plugin that found the centers of each bar

              Not sure I understand the center of what? 😄
              Refound the center of an arc circle or circle ? This exists by Chris Fullmer
              (the inverse draw a perpendicular circle by the extremity of a segment ? This exists by Chris Fullmer )
              the center of gravity of something? This exists by TIG
              ...

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • KrisidiousK 離線
                Krisidious
                最後由 編輯

                Center of the pipes by building a line that could then be used to rebuild the pipe.

                thanks for Perpendicular Face Tools though. gonna need that.

                By: Kristoff Rand
                Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                • Dave RD 離線
                  Dave R
                  最後由 編輯

                  If you're talking about whole car bodies, what about using Artisan?

                  Etaoin Shrdlu

                  %

                  (THERE'S NO PLACE LIKE)

                  G28 X0.0 Y0.0 Z0.0

                  M30

                  %

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                  • KrisidiousK 離線
                    Krisidious
                    最後由 編輯

                    The bodies I can bring straight over and or easily rebuilt their topography. The roll bars are in the right place, but need to be rebuilt.

                    Capture2011.JPG

                    By: Kristoff Rand
                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                    • BoxB 離線
                      Box
                      最後由 編輯

                      Kris it's all geometry, edges and faces, I think you need to be more specific and tell us exactly what you need to do. To me sorting the car shell would be important and a roll cage something that I could fix in seconds. But is seems the other way for you.

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                      • KrisidiousK 離線
                        Krisidious
                        最後由 編輯

                        I thought I had been pretty specific. I need to recreate roll bars with connect geometry. from the simplistic and disconnected ones I have or get.

                        By: Kristoff Rand
                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                        • TIGT 離線
                          TIG Moderator
                          最後由 編輯

                          Tubes which are linear - like the horizontal parts - can be easily extruded as tubes - that is if those path edges are welded into one continuous curve - perhaps with a transitional arc joining the straight bits.
                          Like my PipeAlongPath...
                          If you have an L junction a welded path will also extrude as you hope.
                          Add a transitional arc at the elbow if you don't want a right-angle mitered bend.
                          When you have a 'T' of a tube meeting another tube at something like a right-angle, then make the two parts, then use Fredo's RoundCorner tool to make a proper 'filleted' joint - i.e. just like you'd get with a real-world 'weld'...
                          If the scale of the modeling doesn't warrant such detail, then simply 'intersect' the two parts and delete the unwanted geometry...
                          You'll need to do some exploding/combining of geometry if parts gets grouped as you make them...

                          TIG

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                          • andybotA 離線
                            andybot
                            最後由 編輯

                            Just thinking - you could use vertex tools to merge close vertices. That may work to clean up the breaks at each bend in one shot.

                            Edit: looked at the model - that works only for the smaller bends. For the perpendicular intersections, not much help there.


                            rollbar2.skp

                            http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                            • KrisidiousK 離線
                              Krisidious
                              最後由 編輯

                              That sounds like the labor I had envisioned Tig. I was really hoping for a clickable cure.

                              Andybot, that did work, but each vert had to be welding 1 at a time. again pretty time consuming.

                              And all of these work-arounds seem like more work that just rebuilding the roll bars.
                              I guess that will have to do.

                              Thanks for all the suggestions.

                              By: Kristoff Rand
                              Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                              • TIGT 離線
                                TIG Moderator
                                最後由 編輯

                                @krisidious said:

                                That sounds like the labor I had envisioned Tig. I was really hoping for a clickable cure.

                                Andybot, that did work, but each vert had to be welding 1 at a time. again pretty time consuming.

                                And all of these work-arounds seem like more work that just rebuilding the roll bars.
                                I guess that will have to do.

                                Thanks for all the suggestions.
                                There's no such thing as a free-lunch !
                                😎

                                TIG

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                                • KrisidiousK 離線
                                  Krisidious
                                  最後由 編輯

                                  Fredo Lines2Tubes

                                  I guess it will do... I wish it were welded though.

                                  rollbar.JPG

                                  rollbar3.JPG

                                  rollbar4.JPG

                                  rollbar5.JPG

                                  rollbar6.JPG

                                  rollbar7.JPG

                                  Took longer here wrting and answering... But, I'd still rather have a pipe plugin that saw this geometry and knew I wanted 3" pipe in that general shape and welded.

                                  Or am I back to the new Profile Builder?

                                  By: Kristoff Rand
                                  Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                  • sdmitchS 離線
                                    sdmitch
                                    最後由 編輯

                                    rollbar5.jpg is why I put a sphere at each vertex. That eliminates the outside gaps.

                                    Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                    http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                    • pilouP 離線
                                      pilou
                                      最後由 編輯

                                      Why not use Plugins specialized in Pipes ?
                                      Like 3SKeng or this free one by Architectboy?

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • KrisidiousK 離線
                                        Krisidious
                                        最後由 編輯

                                        a roll bar is one solid piece and the less pieces the better on the system.

                                        http://s3images.coroflot.com/user_files/individual_files/original_221352_5TgHTnNTM6oQ_yH1OYPItE4Ok.jpg

                                        By: Kristoff Rand
                                        Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                        • andybotA 離線
                                          andybot
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          @krisidious said:

                                          Andybot, that did work, but each vert had to be welding 1 at a time. again pretty time consuming.

                                          I selected all the vertices and used "merge close vertices" with a distance of 0.3 Much quicker than if you do it individually. 😄

                                          It deletes some faces in the back though, but generate faces fixed that pretty easily. Also need to remove inner faces (There's a plugin for that 😄 )

                                          http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                                          • pilouP 離線
                                            pilou
                                            最後由 編輯

                                            @unknownuser said:

                                            merge close vertices

                                            With what plugins ?

                                            Frenchy Pilou
                                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                            My Little site :)

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