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    • Rich O BrienR Offline
      Rich O Brien Moderator
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        Lersince1991
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        @cotty said:

        Maybe Bitmap to mesh is not the route of choice here.

        Thomthoms note:
        "Note! Generates two triangles per pixel!
        250x250 pixel image generates a mesh of ~125K faces! ( 250 * 250 * 2 )"

        for your first image: 1360x1360x2 = 3.699.200 faces!

        Can you share those images here?

        It is the only way I can generate the terrain from this and there are only 7 different colours/ levels, so once generated I could reduce the mesh significantly using cleanup3 (merge faces & remove stray edges). I may then smooth it using artisan or similar.

        Or perhaps the "Mesh from bitmap" might be better than the height map method, that was I could clean up then select by material and move up or down to create the levels.

        (I have tried using illustrator to live trace and then extrude but the edges never align properly, I tried attaching the example as far as I got with that method, but it'll be even more power hungry in the end, and the file is 10mb)

        Heres the image anyway.

        1360sq

        When milled out I will be layering up 5 different woods with different shades so it will stand out for each layer.

        Here's also an example of the outcome - except this was a contour model using plywood (different site).

        Example (contoured)

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        • Rich O BrienR Offline
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          based off your displacement map Blender can do this...

          Screenshot 2015-04-09 22.14.10.png

          ...and you can control the density/height

          but a collada export of 500k tris result in a 75mb file. importing that into SketchUp you probably need to go make coffee, hoover house, cut lawn etc....

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          • ely862meE Offline
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            127 mb πŸ˜„


            bmp.jpg


            bmp wireframe.jpg

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              Lersince1991
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              @ely862me said:

              127 mb πŸ˜„

              Wow how on earth did your machine do that?!

              Does it zip for dropbox etc...?

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              • L Offline
                Lersince1991
                last edited by

                or maybe run CleanUp first?

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                • ely862meE Offline
                  ely862me
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                  Actually it did it quite fast and it is not that much of a deal. Just an i7 3770, others than processor speed is not important with sketchup. The eaten memory is just 3.5 gb.
                  I am trying to clean it up by bits to not draw it into the not responding mode.

                  Question: Why don't use the cam program that creates the code for the cnc? Usually these programs have the ability to create mesh from bitmaps.

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                    Lersince1991
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                    @ely862me said:

                    Actually it did it quite fast and it is not that much of a deal. Just an i7 3770, others than processor speed is not important with sketchup. The eaten memory is just 3.5 gb.
                    I am trying to clean it up by bits to not draw it into the not responding mode.

                    Question: Why don't use the cam program that creates the code for the cnc? Usually these programs have the ability to create mesh from bitmaps.

                    Excellent,

                    Really? I spoke to them any they said they couldn't so been trying all day to do it this way instead. πŸ˜•

                    edit: Plus I need this anyway for the master model for render to be fair.

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                    • ely862meE Offline
                      ely862me
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                      https://www.dropbox.com/s/yuqj2r3jer4mej8/bmp%20a.rar?dl=0 still over 70mb

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                        18mb

                        Terrain.png

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                        • ely862meE Offline
                          ely862me
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                          That looks better because the heights are not as divided as mine.
                          Anyway, I believe that the image itself is a bit over exaggerated in details for the job requested. Perhaps some smooth transitions, like a wavy terrain would be more like it.


                          new map.rar


                          new map.jpg

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                            Lersince1991
                            last edited by

                            Many thanks for the help everyone, its looking fantastic, I think ely862me's version has worked the best as it is the healthiest and has the most detail.

                            I'll be sure to post final photographs up when I can!

                            ely862me: It would be good if you could explain your workflow? Just that there seems to be a noise where I would expect flat surfaces, I actually quite like it but just wondered if you did it in a more powerful program like the suggested blender? or wether it is in fact from sketchup?

                            Many thanks again, excellent help from the guru's!

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                            • ely862meE Offline
                              ely862me
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                              You're welcome!
                              Which one are you referring to? The first or this last one ?
                              The first one is achieved with Bitmap to mesh plugin and cleaned up. Perhaps the height which I chose made it that way.

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                              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                attached is a zipped .blend file. you can see in the animated .gif below the setting to change to affect the height...

                                landscape.gif

                                ...when happy click the apply button on all 3 modifiers to make the actual mesh and export to .dae

                                landscape.zip

                                this will tax your system less than SketchUp will and give you more control.

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                                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                    [edg3d:3t8cla6v]SoFlZ8yn4gXn6nB[/edg3d:3t8cla6v]

                                    polycrunching the mesh can get it as low as <3mb...

                                    landscape.zip

                                    ...an interesting challenge for sure. thanks for sharing it!

                                    looking forward to final output.

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                                      My computer could handle it, but I couldn't. Most of what you guys are talking about is WAY over my head πŸ˜’

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                                        Lersince1991
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                                        Completed! πŸ‘

                                        Took 60 hours on the CNC milling bed using a 6mm drill bit, I wanted smaller but it was unrealistic.
                                        from 36mm Birch plywood (2x 18mm 4' x 4').

                                        Next stages for it are to fill in areas of water with resin, not decided on the colour or to leave it clear yet though!
                                        And 3D printed buildings will be set on top of that.

                                        I will also use the digital model for some renders.

                                        IMG_3602.jpg
                                        IMG_3603.jpg
                                        IMG_3604.jpg

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                                        • ely862meE Offline
                                          ely862me
                                          last edited by

                                          Nice ! πŸ‘
                                          60 hours , woah, is it worthy ? Power consumption wise ?
                                          I hope to finish my CNC setup soon and I will be looking forward for some tips and tricks about sketchup and cnc.

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                                            Lersince1991
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                                            Hi, Just a follow up.

                                            I've attached a photo of the final model including 3d printed parts and 5kg of tinted black resin for the water and a welded steel stand consisting of 18 unsupported legs.

                                            If your interested you can see the rest of the project which is now on my website, all modelled in sketchup and rendered manually in photoshop. - I still have a lot of images to add but you can scroll down to view whats there at the minute.

                                            http://www.lukeriggall.co.uk/architecture/the-arc-centre

                                            The final master model stats were around 25 million edges, 10 million faces within 400k components, performance was manageable (on 2015) by using layers.

                                            28f.jpg

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