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    • Mistro11M Offline
      Mistro11
      last edited by

      @pilou said:

      Have you followed my little tutorial and aespecially the last line of the point C ?

      Yes I used that as a guide. Thanks. I made a small rectangle and pulled it out to a flat box for testing. I then made it into a group and clicked on "show collision" for that object. When you say make it with thickness, is it more than just pulling out to a box? I'm at a loss here.

      Also the SP control panel is blank. Don't know if that means anything.

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      • pilouP Offline
        pilou
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        @unknownuser said:

        When you say make it with thickness, is it more than just pulling out to a box? I'm at a loss here.

        a component with a thickness = a volume
        but you can also take a simple plane! πŸ˜‰
        as in the end of the Jeff video! πŸ’š

        But if you have only planes as cards not many chance that you can obtain a montain! πŸ˜„

        And I believe that your problem is

        @unknownuser said:

        Right click / Sketchyphysics /Shape

        Seems I remember that you must enter something like "convex" if it's be...(the nature of the volume)

        http://www.keris-studio.fr/blog/wp-content/clip_image041_thumb7.jpg

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        • cottyC Offline
          cotty
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          @jeff hammond said:

          did this with sketchy physics too:

          Is that Bryce flying by? πŸ˜‰

          The new version (modified by Anton) of SketchUp works great in 2015 (only 32bit) as mentioned before.

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          • pilouP Offline
            pilou
            last edited by

            @Mistro
            Seems you must post your skp file for someone can examine it! πŸ˜‰

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            • Mistro11M Offline
              Mistro11
              last edited by

              When I select convexhull my cube falls but is triangulated. Seems like something happens to the geometry. Earlier I loaded the box that comes with SP. It fell as expected. Then I used round corner on the cube to modify it. After that, it stays in the air but the mesh face is distorted.

              Here's my skp file. I hope SU version 2014 is ok. That's what I'm using for this. The bowl is made shallow so not to need too many components.
              Cereal_Bowl.skp

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              • cottyC Offline
                cotty
                last edited by

                Your geometry is too small, if you scale it 10x, it will work.

                Edit: little animation...
                [screenr:vp66j6ey]qEvN[/screenr:vp66j6ey]

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
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                  @cotty said:

                  Is that Bryce flying by? πŸ˜‰

                  it's been a while since i did that and i can't find the file.. i think it might be Sang doing the fly by though ?

                  @unknownuser said:

                  The new version (modified by Anton) of SketchUp works great in 2015 (only 32bit) as mentioned before.

                  oh, right.. i forgot windows sketchup still has a 32bit version.. 2015 for mac is 64bit only

                  dotdotdot

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                  • Mistro11M Offline
                    Mistro11
                    last edited by

                    @cotty said:

                    Your geometry is too small, if you scale it 10x, it will work.

                    Thank you so much Cotty! That worked. It plays slow but it works. What SU version did you use? The cereal triangulated on the way down for me but renders fine.

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                    • cottyC Offline
                      cotty
                      last edited by

                      SU 2014, I use that version to play with SP since I normally use the 64bit SU2015.
                      Is your "show collision" still active?
                      You can record the animation and watch it faster afterwards as a playback.

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                      • Mistro11M Offline
                        Mistro11
                        last edited by

                        Show collision is still active. I just got a bugsplat halfway through the animation after multiplying the cereal. What kind of optimizations should I be aware of? I'm thinking my cereal have too many faces. Yeah, I wish I could use this in 2015 64bit.

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                        • cottyC Offline
                          cotty
                          last edited by

                          For my animation, I only have deactivated the show collision setting without changing your geometry of the cereal.

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                          • Mistro11M Offline
                            Mistro11
                            last edited by

                            I figured out why my scene was so heavy. I didn't make the cereal into a component. After making it into a component, it runs much smoother. Thanks again.

                            Cereal_Bowl.jpg

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                            • Rich O BrienR Offline
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                              i think blender will serve you better in this instance. without suffering from crashes

                              click image to view gif...
                              cereal.gif

                              set the bowl as a collision object

                              set a plane to emit your cereal shape

                              after simulating you can export to SU....

                              picpick-001.png

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                              • Mistro11M Offline
                                Mistro11
                                last edited by

                                @rich o brien said:

                                i think blender will serve you better in this instance. without suffering from crashes

                                Thanks Rich. Yeah, Blender is my other workhorse. I do want to make my cereal with more complex shapes without worrying about crashes so I will try that next.

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                                • pilouP Offline
                                  pilou
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                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  I didn't make the cereal into a component.

                                  of course! πŸ˜‰

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                                  • Mistro11M Offline
                                    Mistro11
                                    last edited by

                                    One more question...Is it possible to tweak the scene after pausing the simulation? The cereal fell in a perfect way but I want to tweak the materials and export the scene to Thea Studio. Any attempt to select anything outside SP tools results in a reset of the simulation.

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
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                                      At the "pause" Save your file! πŸ€“
                                      So if you reload it as a new session of SU, you can change anything before relaunch a new simulation! πŸ˜‰

                                      Frenchy Pilou
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                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • Mistro11M Offline
                                        Mistro11
                                        last edited by

                                        @pilou said:

                                        At the "pause" Save your file! πŸ€“
                                        So if you reload it as a new session of SU, you can change anything before relaunch a new simulation! πŸ˜‰

                                        Thank you Pilou! That works although I cannot press file>save when in pause. I Ctrl+S but was not sure if it worked. It sat there long enough to give me an autosave so I wasn't worried. When I restarted, it launched normally with my bowl of cereal the way I left it. πŸ˜„

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