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    • D 離線
      driven
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      @olishea said:

      Which one will be quicker?

      good point made by neets...

      john

      learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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      • olisheaO 離線
        olishea
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        Has anyone seen a thea test scene anywhere? For render times. There is a twilight one knocking about that I could test with too. Can compare then with other PC specs.

        Oh I know it's rapid, I just don't know how much more rapid than my old setup!

        oli

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        • BoxB 離線
          Box
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          Oli, get on with your work and enjoy your new setup.

          The rest of the gibberish and testing is irrelevant unless .............

          so many different and unrelated settings and hardware configurations.

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          • C 離線
            cadmunkey
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            @olishea said:

            Has anyone seen a thea test scene anywhere? For render times. There is a twilight one knocking about that I could test with too. Can compare then with other PC specs.

            Oh I know it's rapid, I just don't know how much more rapid than my old setup!

            Oli try this one here for Thea, 32 spp and 2048 spp and post results. Quite a few different cards tested in that thread.
            https://thearender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=93%26amp;t=16544

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            • olisheaO 離線
              olishea
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              Thanks cadmunkey. That's exactly what I'm looking for.

              I know Box, I'm not really one for comparing but would be interesting to see anyway. If even just to see how much quicker than my old Intel Core 2 Duo!

              oli

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              • stefanqS 離線
                stefanq
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                Don't forget about temps Oli. You got one hot cpu - not sexy hot- and I know that, running some benchmarks (I think the last version of Prime) will make the cpu to throttle. I didn't find to much info about the temps when rendering, so, that's why I'm so curious.
                Anyway, if you are below 70 degrees Celsius, you should be fine.
                Cheers!
                Ps: I almost had the money to build a similar rig, based on the same cpu, but something came up, and now I'm breaking my bones again, for extra income. Tough times.

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                • jeff hammondJ 離線
                  jeff hammond
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                  @olishea said:

                  So yeah, not all Apple repairs go as smoothly as you claim!

                  i didn't claim they go smoothly.. i said there are other ways to have a mac fixed besides it being shipped away and wiped clean (in response to juju)

                  and saying this again:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  it's about nearly anything to be said in a mac vs pc argument, there are also valid counterpoints.. from either side.

                  i'm not arguing 'mac is better'.. i think if you re-read some of what i wrote, you'll see thats not my stance..**


                  build your own.. right. cheaper, more customizable, more fun if that's what you're into, easier user serviceability (i mean, you built the thing.. swapping out a part should be cake), etcetc.. that's fine and i really don't think people are arguing against that.. but at the same time, you (in general) have to recognize the majority of people don't build their own computers.. it's not as if people don't understand what you're saying and that we need it explained.. just that most people would rather buy a plugnplay electronic.

                  on the mac side of that, there are people building their own and using osx.. either hackintosh or buy a 4.1 box then pimp it..
                  probably easier for this stuff to happen with a windows based mindset but it's not the only way nor is it the best way.. to a certain degree, whatever is best for that individual is what's best.

                  ** on the bit about repairs though, i would actually argue mac is better.. but it's not really an argument.. this is year after year from consumer reports and the like:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  In our latest reader survey of computer technical support, Apple bested its own scores from last year's survey and walloped other brand-name computer manufacturers.

                  The company scored far higher than the other big companies for the elements that make for successful online and phone support: ease of contacting staff, clarity of advice, technical knowledge, patience, and time for follow-up.

                  Apple's in-house technical support service, the Genius Bar, rated as high as support provided by phone or online. Whatever way readers asked for tech help—by phone (the most common way), online, or in person—Apple was also able to solve more computer problems. Independent shops that make custom computers came closest to Apple.

                  Clearly, there's room for improvement in tech support: 24 to 40 percent of respondents who sought phone or online help from makers of Windows-based computers said the staff's patience, knowledge, or clarity was fair at best.

                  (though in my experience at least, macs don't break to begin with.. probably most other computers don't break either)

                  dotdotdot

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                  • R 離線
                    roland joseph
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    probably most other computers don't break either)

                    That sums it up. 😆 Break downs are rare. The pc I just retired went 12 years with out a hick-up. It is still in use.

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                    • neetsN 離線
                      neets
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                      Why are we resurrecting this Mac v PC argument again?! Guys, let it go! There are valid reasons to choose either (although I'm Windows All. Day. Long). When I was making a decision 4 yrs ago as to which one I would choose, I did a bit of research and found out that Mac computers were problematic when it came to design/CAD software. It was a no-brainer for me to opt for a PC. I just didn't want that risk. Could be different these days though. I'm not sure if there are still issues in that area for Mac.

                      Oli, don't feel under pressure to try and illustrate ridiculous rendering times in comparison to your previous machine. I'm not interested in a comparison of that nature. I'm just interested in your render times full stop! Can you do a test using Maxwell Render, to give me a better idea? 🎉

                      Anita

                      Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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                      • jeff hammondJ 離線
                        jeff hammond
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                        @neets said:

                        Why are we resurrecting this Mac v PC argument again?!
                        [...]
                        I'm not sure if there are still issues in that area for Mac.

                        isn't that what you just did? 😕

                        dotdotdot

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                        • neetsN 離線
                          neets
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                          @jeff hammond said:

                          @neets said:

                          Why are we resurrecting this Mac v PC argument again?!
                          [...]
                          I'm not sure if there are still issues in that area for Mac.

                          isn't that what you just did? 😕

                          Yea, alright. Fair point. Well then, feel free to respond 😉

                          Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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                          • pbacotP 離線
                            pbacot
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                            The "problematic" issue for Mac involving CAD was probably Autodesk decided not to support Mac OS in the past. I've used PC and AutoCAD some in training, but I have used Mac since 88 for CAD. There's no problem. AutoCAD is now back on Mac to some extent, but I never wanted to use it for my work in the first place.

                            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                            • neetsN 離線
                              neets
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                              @numerobis said:

                              http://www.maxwellrender.com/benchwell 😉

                              a 4970K should be around 10 min and ~BM450

                              But you have to read the list very carfully today and compare the results and infos, because it is messed up with many bad entries without specs and info. Results of clearly overclocked machines without any info about the real clock rates - the GHz number in the Processor column only shows the stock speed.

                              Thanks for this; I remember checking the Benchwell list previously but, like you've said, I was concerned about the authenticity of the specs! Oli's result might be more accurate.

                              Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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                              • neetsN 離線
                                neets
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                                @pbacot said:

                                The "problematic" issue for Mac involving CAD was probably Autodesk decided not to support Mac OS in the past. I've used PC and AutoCAD some in training, but I have used Mac since 88 for CAD. There's no problem. AutoCAD is now back on Mac to some extent, but I never wanted to use it for my work in the first place.

                                You're right, it did involve AutoCAD a lot and that was one of my requirements because I needed to use AutoCAD for my design studies. I appreciate that a number of issues may have been resolved but when I did my research, a lot of the feedback was that Windows was generally more straightforward when using (external) CAD/design software.

                                Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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                                • N 離線
                                  numerobis
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                                  @neets said:

                                  I'm just interested in your render times full stop! Can you do a test using Maxwell Render, to give me a better idea?

                                  http://www.maxwellrender.com/benchwell 😉

                                  a 4970K should be around 10 min and ~BM450

                                  But you have to read the list very carefully today and compare the results and infos, because it is messed up with many bad entries without specs and info. Results of clearly overclocked machines without any info about the real clock rates - the GHz number in the Processor column only shows the stock speed.

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                                  • olisheaO 離線
                                    olishea
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                                    I don't even have or use Maxwell sorry! It's a good bit of kit though.

                                    oli

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                                    • neetsN 離線
                                      neets
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                                      @olishea said:

                                      I don't even have or use Maxwell sorry! It's a good bit of kit though.

                                      Ach! Darn! 😞

                                      Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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                                      • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                        jeff hammond
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                                        @neets said:

                                        @olishea said:

                                        I don't even have or use Maxwell sorry! It's a good bit of kit though.

                                        Ach! Darn! 😞

                                        hey neets.. i think the trick with maxwell is to set it up where you're not watching it render 😉


                                        on nearly a completely off topic tangent.. rumor has it, apple is making a self driving car.

                                        .

                                        dotdotdot

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                                        • neetsN 離線
                                          neets
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                                          @jeff hammond said:

                                          hey neets.. i think the trick with maxwell is to set it up where you're not watching it render 😉

                                          I'm guessing this is a very unsubtle remark about the time it can take for Maxwell to render??! Doesn't bother me in the slightest - the results speak for themselves 😄

                                          Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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                                          • jeff hammondJ 離線
                                            jeff hammond
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                                            i use indigo.. same deal

                                            dotdotdot

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