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Finally gone back(i mean forward) to a PC!

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  • O Offline
    olishea
    last edited by 11 Feb 2015, 15:41

    @michaliszissiou said:

    "we found some hair" they said. Do you have a pet?

    πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

    They tried that one with me too!! Seriously!

    I took my brother's iPhone to the "Genius" Bar as it kept losing signal....

    30 seconds in, after an otoscope inspection, the "genius" condescendingly pulled out a single dog hair with some tweezers.

    They tried to say the hair is causing the problem. A dog hair! Anyway, 2 hours of arguing later they gave me a new phone. πŸ˜† πŸ˜† πŸ˜†

    oli

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      michaliszissiou
      last edited by 11 Feb 2015, 20:28

      Please Oli,
      My message was, be like a hairy huge guy. It works. Give them something to thing about.
      🀣

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        neets
        last edited by 12 Feb 2015, 00:06

        Where's the render test??!! I scrolled through all of that 'man waffle' for NOTHING???!!! πŸ˜‰

        Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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          olishea
          last edited by 12 Feb 2015, 00:10

          haha yeah i should do comparisons to my old rig it would be quite amusing!

          oli

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            neets
            last edited by 12 Feb 2015, 00:18

            So you haven't tested the render times yet?! I'd be taking a day off work to do that!! So jealous that you have an i7! I'd love a dedicated rendering workstation. I'm still using my DELL laptop!!

            Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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              driven
              last edited by 12 Feb 2015, 01:25

              @olishea said:

              Which one will be quicker?

              good point made by neets...

              john

              learn from the mistakes of others, you may not live long enough to make them all yourself...

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                olishea
                last edited by 12 Feb 2015, 15:36

                Has anyone seen a thea test scene anywhere? For render times. There is a twilight one knocking about that I could test with too. Can compare then with other PC specs.

                Oh I know it's rapid, I just don't know how much more rapid than my old setup!

                oli

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                  Box
                  last edited by 12 Feb 2015, 15:52

                  Oli, get on with your work and enjoy your new setup.

                  The rest of the gibberish and testing is irrelevant unless .............

                  so many different and unrelated settings and hardware configurations.

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                    cadmunkey
                    last edited by 12 Feb 2015, 17:27

                    @olishea said:

                    Has anyone seen a thea test scene anywhere? For render times. There is a twilight one knocking about that I could test with too. Can compare then with other PC specs.

                    Oh I know it's rapid, I just don't know how much more rapid than my old setup!

                    Oli try this one here for Thea, 32 spp and 2048 spp and post results. Quite a few different cards tested in that thread.
                    https://thearender.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=93%26amp;t=16544

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                      olishea
                      last edited by 12 Feb 2015, 19:55

                      Thanks cadmunkey. That's exactly what I'm looking for.

                      I know Box, I'm not really one for comparing but would be interesting to see anyway. If even just to see how much quicker than my old Intel Core 2 Duo!

                      oli

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                        stefanq
                        last edited by 12 Feb 2015, 20:34

                        Don't forget about temps Oli. You got one hot cpu - not sexy hot- and I know that, running some benchmarks (I think the last version of Prime) will make the cpu to throttle. I didn't find to much info about the temps when rendering, so, that's why I'm so curious.
                        Anyway, if you are below 70 degrees Celsius, you should be fine.
                        Cheers!
                        Ps: I almost had the money to build a similar rig, based on the same cpu, but something came up, and now I'm breaking my bones again, for extra income. Tough times.

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                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by 13 Feb 2015, 03:47

                          @olishea said:

                          So yeah, not all Apple repairs go as smoothly as you claim!

                          i didn't claim they go smoothly.. i said there are other ways to have a mac fixed besides it being shipped away and wiped clean (in response to juju)

                          and saying this again:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          it's about nearly anything to be said in a mac vs pc argument, there are also valid counterpoints.. from either side.

                          i'm not arguing 'mac is better'.. i think if you re-read some of what i wrote, you'll see thats not my stance..**


                          build your own.. right. cheaper, more customizable, more fun if that's what you're into, easier user serviceability (i mean, you built the thing.. swapping out a part should be cake), etcetc.. that's fine and i really don't think people are arguing against that.. but at the same time, you (in general) have to recognize the majority of people don't build their own computers.. it's not as if people don't understand what you're saying and that we need it explained.. just that most people would rather buy a plugnplay electronic.

                          on the mac side of that, there are people building their own and using osx.. either hackintosh or buy a 4.1 box then pimp it..
                          probably easier for this stuff to happen with a windows based mindset but it's not the only way nor is it the best way.. to a certain degree, whatever is best for that individual is what's best.

                          ** on the bit about repairs though, i would actually argue mac is better.. but it's not really an argument.. this is year after year from consumer reports and the like:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          In our latest reader survey of computer technical support, Apple bested its own scores from last year's survey and walloped other brand-name computer manufacturers.

                          The company scored far higher than the other big companies for the elements that make for successful online and phone support: ease of contacting staff, clarity of advice, technical knowledge, patience, and time for follow-up.

                          Apple's in-house technical support service, the Genius Bar, rated as high as support provided by phone or online. Whatever way readers asked for tech helpβ€”by phone (the most common way), online, or in personβ€”Apple was also able to solve more computer problems. Independent shops that make custom computers came closest to Apple.

                          Clearly, there's room for improvement in tech support: 24 to 40 percent of respondents who sought phone or online help from makers of Windows-based computers said the staff's patience, knowledge, or clarity was fair at best.

                          (though in my experience at least, macs don't break to begin with.. probably most other computers don't break either)

                          dotdotdot

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                            roland joseph
                            last edited by 13 Feb 2015, 16:08

                            @unknownuser said:

                            probably most other computers don't break either)

                            That sums it up. πŸ˜† Break downs are rare. The pc I just retired went 12 years with out a hick-up. It is still in use.

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                              neets
                              last edited by 13 Feb 2015, 16:34

                              Why are we resurrecting this Mac v PC argument again?! Guys, let it go! There are valid reasons to choose either (although I'm Windows All. Day. Long). When I was making a decision 4 yrs ago as to which one I would choose, I did a bit of research and found out that Mac computers were problematic when it came to design/CAD software. It was a no-brainer for me to opt for a PC. I just didn't want that risk. Could be different these days though. I'm not sure if there are still issues in that area for Mac.

                              Oli, don't feel under pressure to try and illustrate ridiculous rendering times in comparison to your previous machine. I'm not interested in a comparison of that nature. I'm just interested in your render times full stop! Can you do a test using Maxwell Render, to give me a better idea? πŸŽ‰

                              Anita

                              Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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                                jeff hammond
                                last edited by 13 Feb 2015, 16:42

                                @neets said:

                                Why are we resurrecting this Mac v PC argument again?!
                                [...]
                                I'm not sure if there are still issues in that area for Mac.

                                isn't that what you just did? πŸ˜•

                                dotdotdot

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                                  neets
                                  last edited by 13 Feb 2015, 16:56

                                  @jeff hammond said:

                                  @neets said:

                                  Why are we resurrecting this Mac v PC argument again?!
                                  [...]
                                  I'm not sure if there are still issues in that area for Mac.

                                  isn't that what you just did? πŸ˜•

                                  Yea, alright. Fair point. Well then, feel free to respond πŸ˜‰

                                  Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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                                    pbacot
                                    last edited by 13 Feb 2015, 16:57

                                    The "problematic" issue for Mac involving CAD was probably Autodesk decided not to support Mac OS in the past. I've used PC and AutoCAD some in training, but I have used Mac since 88 for CAD. There's no problem. AutoCAD is now back on Mac to some extent, but I never wanted to use it for my work in the first place.

                                    MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                      neets
                                      last edited by 14 Feb 2015, 15:16

                                      @numerobis said:

                                      http://www.maxwellrender.com/benchwell πŸ˜‰

                                      a 4970K should be around 10 min and ~BM450

                                      But you have to read the list very carfully today and compare the results and infos, because it is messed up with many bad entries without specs and info. Results of clearly overclocked machines without any info about the real clock rates - the GHz number in the Processor column only shows the stock speed.

                                      Thanks for this; I remember checking the Benchwell list previously but, like you've said, I was concerned about the authenticity of the specs! Oli's result might be more accurate.

                                      Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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                                        neets
                                        last edited by 14 Feb 2015, 15:18

                                        @pbacot said:

                                        The "problematic" issue for Mac involving CAD was probably Autodesk decided not to support Mac OS in the past. I've used PC and AutoCAD some in training, but I have used Mac since 88 for CAD. There's no problem. AutoCAD is now back on Mac to some extent, but I never wanted to use it for my work in the first place.

                                        You're right, it did involve AutoCAD a lot and that was one of my requirements because I needed to use AutoCAD for my design studies. I appreciate that a number of issues may have been resolved but when I did my research, a lot of the feedback was that Windows was generally more straightforward when using (external) CAD/design software.

                                        Interested to know more about me and my 3D Visualisation work? Then you want to click right here: http://anitabrowndesignstudio.com/

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                                          numerobis
                                          last edited by 14 Feb 2015, 16:30

                                          @neets said:

                                          I'm just interested in your render times full stop! Can you do a test using Maxwell Render, to give me a better idea?

                                          http://www.maxwellrender.com/benchwell πŸ˜‰

                                          a 4970K should be around 10 min and ~BM450

                                          But you have to read the list very carefully today and compare the results and infos, because it is messed up with many bad entries without specs and info. Results of clearly overclocked machines without any info about the real clock rates - the GHz number in the Processor column only shows the stock speed.

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