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    • TeigT 離線
      Teig
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      @d12dozr said:

      Great! It's a learning process, and you're getting a crash course 😄

      You're not wrong there!!! 😛

      Just trying to get a quote now, had one for £43 which I thought a bit harsh so I'm trying some other companies now.

      I can't see the plastic you recommended so I've just gone for 'standard' ABS.

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      • TeigT 離線
        Teig
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        Airbox Bellmouth2.skpI think I've cracked it!

        I've drawn another one tonight, a mere hour to draw:


        http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af190/Nursi555/A Mini/AirboxBellmouth2_zpsc2ec470a.jpg

        😄

        Airbox Bellmouth2.skp

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        • cottyC 離線
          cotty
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          Looks good!
          You can use the soften edges window to smooth out some of the lines (no difference for printing, only looks nicer 😉 ).

          airbox.jpg

          my SketchUp gallery

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          • D 離線
            d12dozr
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            @teig said:

            Just trying to get a quote now, had one for £43 which I thought a bit harsh so I'm trying some other companies now.

            That's about the best price for a part of this size on a commercial printer. Cost on a desktop printer is about 1/10 that price, which is the biggest advantage of using one of them. With your newer design, you actually have a little more room for cleaning out support material.

            @cotty said:

            Looks good!
            You can use the soften edges window to smooth out some of the lines (no difference for printing, only looks nicer 😉 ).

            +1 👍

            On the flip side, this is closer to what it'll look like after printing:
            Capture.JPG

            See the faceting on the curved bell surface? If you want that to print smooth, you'll need to increase the # of segments on the curves (Chapter 4 of the book). If the faceting is no problem, then you're good to go. 😄

            3D Printing with SketchUp Book
            http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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            • TeigT 離線
              Teig
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              The faceting is a problem, I would need to polish all those off to a mirror surface, for the bellmouth itself at least, the mounting flange etc doesn't matter.
              I've been told that some desktop printers will automatically build in support material so it looks like it's going back to that again 😄

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              • TeigT 離線
                Teig
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                Can I increase the number of circle segments now? Or will I need to redraw it from scratch again?

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                • D 離線
                  d12dozr
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                  Definitely redo the model with higher resolution curves then - no reason to polish by hand more than necessary! Once you've push/pulled or follow-me'd, it has to be redrawn, unless you saved the intermediate steps like I show in the book.

                  Yep, pretty much any printer will automatically add the support material - that's whats shown in the T-rex model I posted before. Cleaning the support material is the tricky part, especially in an enclosed area like your model. Sorry if I didn't make that clear earlier.

                  Here's a video showing how the support material is cleaned out. On this particular model, it went very well.

                  3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                  http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                  • TeigT 離線
                    Teig
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                    Thanks again d12dozr, that is a real help. I thought I had to put in all those supports and had been scrabbling around the t'interweb trying to find where and what spacing you put them in at. 😕

                    Back to the drawing board for v14 it is then.... 😄

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                    • TeigT 離線
                      Teig
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                      I am getting the hang of it! V19 was drawn in 45 minutes last night, solid first time 😄

                      Bellmouth50RRadialSlot.jpg

                      Bellmouth50RRadialSlotSOLID.skp

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                      • pilouP 離線
                        pilou
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                        Cool but you have forgotten the V6! 💚

                        Frenchy Pilou
                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                        My Little site :)

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                        • TeigT 離線
                          Teig
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                          @pilou said:

                          Cool but you have forgotten the V6! 💚

                          You need to get up to speed Pilou 😄

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                          • D 離線
                            d12dozr
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                            New design is SEXY!

                            One question...is this area under much stress? If so it may be a good idea to add some meat so it doesn't break easily.
                            Capture.JPG

                            3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                            http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                            • TeigT 離線
                              Teig
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                              Not much stress, it only has to hold the weight of itself up and the one my mate test-printed weighed in at 50g so not very much at all, nothing that a suitable washer won't support (I hope 😄). This version will weigh in a fair bit lighter too.

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                              • TeigT 離線
                                Teig
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                                Well since you pointed that out I've had the compulsion to fiddle 😄 But... I can't work out a way to add a bit of 'meat' to that area? Short of starting from scratch that is. To strengthen that area I've tried making an arc on the base and Push/Pulling but it leaves gaps.

                                v6 added for Pilou 😛

                                Bellmouth50RRadialSlot2v6.skp

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                                • D 離線
                                  d12dozr
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                                  I would try making the shape you want to add as a separate solid group, then use Outer Shell to combine them.

                                  3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                                  http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                                  • TeigT 離線
                                    Teig
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                                    More study required...

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                                    • TeigT 離線
                                      Teig
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                                      I'm back again 😄
                                      I'm on version 34 (or so) now. After a lot of research reading mind-boggling papers on how to optimise the design I have changed my design slightly.

                                      I'm having problems with the Follow Me tool again, it won't do this:

                                      BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.jpg

                                      Is there any way I can make it work? I've tried it a few ways on different radius circles to follow, but it will not have it. I've tried it with half-circles and solid circles, this version is trying to be hollow to save weight. Anyone have any ideas?

                                      v6 for Pilou 😄: BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.jpg


                                      BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.skp

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                                      • cottyC 離線
                                        cotty
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                                        Moved the face away from the other geometry and scaled the model up (1000x)...

                                        follow34.jpg

                                        my SketchUp gallery

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                                        • pilouP 離線
                                          pilou
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                                          @unknownuser said:

                                          v6 for Pilou

                                          Not just for me but for all users who have not the same up version than you! 😉

                                          PS you are making an engine in 3D Printing ?
                                          What will be the fuel ? And for what vehicle ?

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

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                                          • TeigT 離線
                                            Teig
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                                            @cotty said:

                                            Moved the face away from the other geometry and scaled the model up (1000x)...

                                            [attachment=0:1vs06ddx]<!-- ia0 -->follow34.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1vs06ddx]

                                            That looks brilliant.

                                            Err.. How do I move a face away from the other geometry? Every time I try I get little 'strings' attached that just stretch out.

                                            And the scale tool. Sorry for sounding stupid but if I scale it by a 1000x what do I sale by to get back to my dimensions?

                                            Thanks.

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