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      d12dozr
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      Definitely redo the model with higher resolution curves then - no reason to polish by hand more than necessary! Once you've push/pulled or follow-me'd, it has to be redrawn, unless you saved the intermediate steps like I show in the book.

      Yep, pretty much any printer will automatically add the support material - that's whats shown in the T-rex model I posted before. Cleaning the support material is the tricky part, especially in an enclosed area like your model. Sorry if I didn't make that clear earlier.

      Here's a video showing how the support material is cleaned out. On this particular model, it went very well.

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        Teig
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        Thanks again d12dozr, that is a real help. I thought I had to put in all those supports and had been scrabbling around the t'interweb trying to find where and what spacing you put them in at. πŸ˜•

        Back to the drawing board for v14 it is then.... πŸ˜„

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          Teig
          last edited by

          I am getting the hang of it! V19 was drawn in 45 minutes last night, solid first time πŸ˜„

          Bellmouth50RRadialSlot.jpg

          Bellmouth50RRadialSlotSOLID.skp

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            pilou
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            Cool but you have forgotten the V6! πŸ’š

            Frenchy Pilou
            Is beautiful that please without concept!
            My Little site :)

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              Teig
              last edited by

              @pilou said:

              Cool but you have forgotten the V6! πŸ’š

              You need to get up to speed Pilou πŸ˜„

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                d12dozr
                last edited by

                New design is SEXY!

                One question...is this area under much stress? If so it may be a good idea to add some meat so it doesn't break easily.
                Capture.JPG

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                  Teig
                  last edited by

                  Not much stress, it only has to hold the weight of itself up and the one my mate test-printed weighed in at 50g so not very much at all, nothing that a suitable washer won't support (I hope πŸ˜„). This version will weigh in a fair bit lighter too.

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                    Teig
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                    Well since you pointed that out I've had the compulsion to fiddle πŸ˜„ But... I can't work out a way to add a bit of 'meat' to that area? Short of starting from scratch that is. To strengthen that area I've tried making an arc on the base and Push/Pulling but it leaves gaps.

                    v6 added for Pilou πŸ˜›

                    Bellmouth50RRadialSlot2v6.skp

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                      d12dozr
                      last edited by

                      I would try making the shape you want to add as a separate solid group, then use Outer Shell to combine them.

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                        Teig
                        last edited by

                        More study required...

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                          Teig
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                          I'm back again πŸ˜„
                          I'm on version 34 (or so) now. After a lot of research reading mind-boggling papers on how to optimise the design I have changed my design slightly.

                          I'm having problems with the Follow Me tool again, it won't do this:

                          BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.jpg

                          Is there any way I can make it work? I've tried it a few ways on different radius circles to follow, but it will not have it. I've tried it with half-circles and solid circles, this version is trying to be hollow to save weight. Anyone have any ideas?

                          v6 for Pilou πŸ˜„: BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.jpg


                          BellmouthRoundlip45Rv34.skp

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                            cotty
                            last edited by

                            Moved the face away from the other geometry and scaled the model up (1000x)...

                            follow34.jpg

                            my SketchUp gallery

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                              pilou
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                              @unknownuser said:

                              v6 for Pilou

                              Not just for me but for all users who have not the same up version than you! πŸ˜‰

                              PS you are making an engine in 3D Printing ?
                              What will be the fuel ? And for what vehicle ?

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                                Teig
                                last edited by

                                @cotty said:

                                Moved the face away from the other geometry and scaled the model up (1000x)...

                                [attachment=0:1vs06ddx]<!-- ia0 -->follow34.jpg<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1vs06ddx]

                                That looks brilliant.

                                Err.. How do I move a face away from the other geometry? Every time I try I get little 'strings' attached that just stretch out.

                                And the scale tool. Sorry for sounding stupid but if I scale it by a 1000x what do I sale by to get back to my dimensions?

                                Thanks.

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                                  Teig
                                  last edited by

                                  @pilou said:

                                  @unknownuser said:

                                  v6 for Pilou

                                  Not just for me but for all users who have not the same up version than you! πŸ˜‰

                                  PS you are making an engine in 3D Printing ?
                                  What will be the fuel ? And for what vehicle ?

                                  Yes, it's to go on the carburettor intake on a petrol powered 1976 Austin Mini, my daily drive. πŸ˜„

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                                    d12dozr
                                    last edited by

                                    Carsten (cotty) did it exactly how I would have πŸ‘

                                    @teig said:

                                    And the scale tool. Sorry for sounding stupid but if I scale it by a 1000x what do I sale by to get back to my dimensions?

                                    .001

                                    You can also use the Tape Measure tool to quickly and accurately scale a model.

                                    It's neat to watch your design iterations gradually improve 😎

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                                      Teig
                                      last edited by

                                      @d12dozr said:

                                      Carsten (cotty) did it exactly how I would have πŸ‘

                                      @teig said:

                                      And the scale tool. Sorry for sounding stupid but if I scale it by a 1000x what do I sale by to get back to my dimensions?

                                      .0001

                                      If you look at p. 36 of my book, I explain how to use the Tape Measure tool and a reference line to quickly and accurately scale a model.

                                      It's neat to watch your design iterations gradually improve 😎

                                      Thanks a lot Marcus, I knew it had to be some amount of 000s πŸ˜„ It is one mighty learning curve, I'm sure a hotel would be an easier way to get started πŸ˜„

                                      I'll go look at your book now, I haven't had much time to myself recently.

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                                        d12dozr
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                                        Hey Teig, I messed up the first time around...it should be .001. Sorry, I edited my post, but you already caught it.

                                        Also the way to move the geometry is to draw a line separating the piece you want to follow-me, then group it for moving (or copy it and erase the original).

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                                          Box
                                          last edited by

                                          And while you are at it, you can make the piece a component, then scale a copy up to do your edits, then delete the large copy and the edits will have worked on the small version.

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                                            Teig
                                            last edited by

                                            @d12dozr said:

                                            Hey Teig, I messed up the first time around...it should be .001. Sorry, I edited my post, but you already caught it.

                                            Also the way to move the geometry is to draw a line separating the piece you want to follow-me, then group it for moving (or copy it and erase the original).

                                            Ah, OK, I wondered about your zeros but bowed to your wisdom πŸ˜„ I've scaled it all up, I couldn't figure out how to separate the two parts so ran the Follow Me, it worked πŸ˜„ But... it wasn't solid so I ran SolidSolver which is really struggling at present and has been stuck on the Spinning Beachball of Doom for 10 minutes. Here's hoping... πŸ˜•

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