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    • Dave RD Offline
      Dave R
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      If you didn't wind up with any holes after running Follow Me, it isn't too small. Until you get used really familiar with SketchUp's handling of tiny edges and faces, the best thing is to try it and see what happens. You can always use Undo and then scale up to try again. With time you'll be able to anticipate that and be proactive.

      When I am drawing small items and expect holes, I make a component of all the involved geometry--Follow Me path and profile, for example--and make a copy which I scale up. Then I edit the scaled up copy and run Follow Me or make intersections or whatever. When I'm finished, I exit the component, delete the big one and return to the original one which is sitting where I left it.

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      • TeigT Offline
        Teig
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        I was putting some measurements on and the 'Spinning Beachball of Death' appeared, my component has disappeared from my computer ๐Ÿ˜ฒ I have sent an error report.

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        • Dave RD Offline
          Dave R
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          I wonder why that happened.

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          • TeigT Offline
            Teig
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            Well it's back and better than ever ๐Ÿ˜„ And when it cropped up in conversation yesterday my friend told me his brother has a 3D printer, so he can print it - perfect. Just need to figure out how to make the stl file converter plugin work now. ๐Ÿ˜•

            It came to me, you just attach the .skp file... ๐Ÿ˜ณ If anyone wants to run an eye over it for errors at the 3D printing stage I'd be much obliged

            Sub Stack8.skp

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            • TeigT Offline
              Teig
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              @tig said:

              Extra tips:

              Model so the faces' fronts are 'outwards' - context-menu 'reverse'...
              Depending on the Style settings the front color is generally 'off-white' and the back color 'bluish' - your faces look like 'backs'...

              I have reversed the face of the bell if that's what you mean TIG:


              http://i1006.photobucket.com/albums/af190/Nursi555/A Mini/SubStack8bellreversed_zps6652d59a.jpg

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              • cottyC Offline
                cotty
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                It's not a solid (no thickness , internal faces, ...) so you will not be able to print it with a 3d printer.

                my SketchUp gallery

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                • D Offline
                  d12dozr
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                  @teig said:

                  If anyone wants to run an eye over it for errors at the 3D printing stage I'd be much obliged

                  I had a quick look...your model needs to be "Solid" to be 3D printable. Right now, you have a bunch of single-face walls with no thickness that will not print. You have to actually create the desired wall thickness for it to print properly.

                  See this link and my attachment for more details: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/understanding-solid-objects-in-google-sketchup-8.html


                  Capture.JPG

                  3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                  http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                  • TeigT Offline
                    Teig
                    last edited by

                    @d12dozr said:

                    @teig said:

                    If anyone wants to run an eye over it for errors at the 3D printing stage I'd be much obliged

                    I had a quick look...your model needs to be "Solid" to be 3D printable. Right now, you have a bunch of single-face walls with no thickness that will not print. You have to actually create the desired wall thickness for it to print properly.

                    See this link and my attachment for more details: http://www.dummies.com/how-to/content/understanding-solid-objects-in-google-sketchup-8.html

                    I see what you mean. Sort of. Until you pointed it out I thought the area under the bellmouth was solid: how can I make it solid? I just know the push/pull of Follow tool will be a nightmare...

                    I don't/ can't see what the internal face is that I need to delete?

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                    • D Offline
                      d12dozr
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                      Teig, the bottom of the bell was likely not formed when performing the follow me operation at too small of a scale.

                      Does the center have a hole like a donut? Assuming so, here's how I'd make the overall shape:
                      Click to view full size

                      After you run the follow me tool, you're left with a solid that you can add the bottom holes to.

                      3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                      http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                      • pilouP Offline
                        pilou
                        last edited by

                        Aaaah, you have saved as 2015! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                        So owners of other versions can't reload your file! ๐Ÿ˜ข
                        It's so easy to save as V6 for a more large audience! ๐Ÿ˜„

                        Frenchy Pilou
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                        My Little site :)

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                        • TeigT Offline
                          Teig
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                          Gotcha! I think! Draw the profile at the very start. I've been trying for three hours now to put an arc under the bellmouth! ๐Ÿ˜’

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                          • TeigT Offline
                            Teig
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                            @pilou said:

                            Aaaah, you have saved as 2015! ๐Ÿ˜ฎ
                            So owners of other versions can't reload your file! ๐Ÿ˜ข
                            It's so easy to save as V6 for a more large audience! ๐Ÿ˜„

                            Oops! ๐Ÿ˜ณ I'll try again with an older version.

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                            • Dave RD Offline
                              Dave R
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                              Pilou,it's long past time for you to catch up to the rest of the world. ๐Ÿ˜‰

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                              • pbacotP Offline
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                                @dave r said:

                                Pilou,it's long past time for you to catch up to the rest of the world. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                Pilou, doesn't your computer run 2015? Before I even start using some versions, I get a copy of the latest just so I can open files from others (and also to try it out some). I then back-save a file myself if I really want to play with it, using my current plugin and setup.

                                MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                • D Offline
                                  d12dozr
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                                  @teig said:

                                  I've been trying for three hours now to put an arc under the bellmouth! ๐Ÿ˜’

                                  You could use JointPushPull plugin to thicken a curved surface, but starting with a new profile is much cleaner and probably faster.

                                  3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                                  http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                                  • TeigT Offline
                                    Teig
                                    last edited by

                                    I eventually got it sorted (hope), thanks to you folks. It really does look like the perfect bellmouth now - I couldn't sleep last night I was so excited ๐Ÿ˜„

                                    I'm at work now; I'll put the (v6) .skp up later.

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                                      d12dozr
                                      last edited by

                                      Nice! ๐Ÿ˜

                                      3D Printing with SketchUp Book
                                      http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                                      • TIGT Offline
                                        TIG Moderator
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                                        Nearly there... ๐Ÿ˜„

                                        I purged the model [Model Info > Statistics...]
                                        I erased all guides.
                                        I then regrouped the geometry.
                                        It reported as a non-solid.
                                        I suspected some un-faced edge[s] have been left hanging around...
                                        I ran SolidSolver on it and it removed some 101 Un-faced or Coplanar edges.
                                        Then it reported as a solid.
                                        Simply using CleanUp would probably have made it a solid too...

                                        It is now suitable for 3d printing...


                                        Capture.PNG

                                        TIG

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                                        • TeigT Offline
                                          Teig
                                          last edited by

                                          I know it's not sensational or a spectacular Sketchup item but it's big to me ๐Ÿ˜„ Here it is in all its glory:

                                          It's not solid and I don't know why, its in 4506 'entities'! I'm not bothering with the vents and mounting holes now; I can do them later on the milling machine and lathe, what does it need for 3D printing?

                                          I've added the rounded lip on the edge of the bell mouth as an afterthought but I can't get rid of the joining lines; how do erase them?


                                          Sub Stack11v6.skp

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                                          • TeigT Offline
                                            Teig
                                            last edited by

                                            @tig said:

                                            Nearly there... ๐Ÿ˜„

                                            I purged the model [Model Info > Statistics...]
                                            I erased all guides.
                                            I then regrouped the geometry.
                                            It reported as a non-solid.
                                            I suspected some un-faced edge[s] have been left hanging around...
                                            I ran SolidSolver on it and it removed some 101 Un-faced or Coplanar edges.
                                            Then it reported as a solid.
                                            Simply using CleanUp would probably have made it a solid too...

                                            It is now suitable for 3d printing...

                                            When I can figure out how to install those extensions I'll do mine then ๐Ÿ˜• Or do you mean I can click on it and download it from my previous post? You have facility for interactive editing then? WOW ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

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