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    • BoxB Online
      Box
      last edited by

      There is a plugin that lets you draw on shadows, can't think what it is just now. Something from Rederiza I think.

      Tig has shadow projector which I think will outline the shadows for you so you can alter the material where the shadow should be so it looks like a shadow, if that makes sense.

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        And another thing...
        A textured material using a PNG will not accept shadows even when it is not transparent at all.

        TIG

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        • hellnbakH Offline
          hellnbak
          last edited by

          Box-
          Thanks for the tips, I'll check them out and see what they can do. Even if they don't solve my problem, maybe they can be useful in some other way.

          TIG -
          Not sure I understand. Are you saying that if I import a texture as a PNG file vs JPG it will not accept shadows?

          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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          • TIGT Offline
            TIG Moderator
            last edited by

            No, a textured material will accept a shadow IF it has NO transparency.
            BUT if the texture is a PNG it will NEVER accept a shadow.
            [EDIT: to clarify - if it has a transparency layer set - even if all pixels are opaque!]

            TIG

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            • Dave RD Offline
              Dave R
              last edited by

              TIG, I'm not sure I'm following you.

              Here's a PNG image.
              Cam Clamp.png

              I imported it as a texture which is applied to a face.
              Cam Clamps.png

              It seems to be accepting shadows.

              Or do you mean that if there are any transparent pixels in a PNG texture image, none of it will accept shadows?

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              • hellnbakH Offline
                hellnbak
                last edited by

                I also do not understand. I imported the stone texture as a PNG and it too seems to have no problems accepting the shadow


                2014-09-28_130433.png

                "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                • Rich O BrienR Offline
                  Rich O Brien Moderator
                  last edited by

                  Try a .png in which the pixels are transparent

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                  • Dave RD Offline
                    Dave R
                    last edited by

                    @rich o brien said:

                    Try a .png in which the pixels are transparent

                    Thanks. That makes it clear. πŸ˜„

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                    • hellnbakH Offline
                      hellnbak
                      last edited by

                      What's weird is how the shadow looks with different texture opacity settings -

                      72 percent2014-09-28_130920.png
                      84 percent 2014-09-28_131017.png
                      99 percent 2014-09-28_131105.png
                      and 100 percent 2014-09-28_131124.png

                      "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                      • Dave RD Offline
                        Dave R
                        last edited by

                        At 72% you're seeing the shadow on the ground. At 99% the texture isn't transparent enough to see through.

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                        • hellnbakH Offline
                          hellnbak
                          last edited by

                          Had to really think about that but then the "doh!" moment happened. Never would have figured that out on my own, thanks for explaining.

                          "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                          • TIGT Offline
                            TIG Moderator
                            last edited by

                            To recap...

                            Materials with < 100% opacity [i.e. transparent] of any kind - plain-color/jpg/png etc - will never receive a shadow.
                            If they are >= 70% opacity they will cast shadows - unless they use certain types of texture file, see below...

                            Textured materials that are NOT transparent [100% opaque] will receive and cast shadows, IF the texture file has NO 'transparency layer' defined - e.g. it's a JPG file...

                            BUT if the texture file is a PNG, AND it also has a 'transparency layer' defined, then it will not receive shadows, AND also it will never cast shadows - even if the material itself is set to be is 100% opaque.
                            BUT if the material's texture is a PNG file with no 'transparency layer' defined, then it can accept/cast shadows, just like if a JPG file had been used.

                            TIG

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                            • hellnbakH Offline
                              hellnbak
                              last edited by

                              Yeah, what he said πŸ˜‰

                              "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                              • BoxB Online
                                Box
                                last edited by

                                There will be a test on this later and your score will count to your final result.

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