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    • TIGT Offline
      TIG Moderator
      last edited by

      And another thing...
      A textured material using a PNG will not accept shadows even when it is not transparent at all.

      TIG

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      • hellnbakH Offline
        hellnbak
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        Box-
        Thanks for the tips, I'll check them out and see what they can do. Even if they don't solve my problem, maybe they can be useful in some other way.

        TIG -
        Not sure I understand. Are you saying that if I import a texture as a PNG file vs JPG it will not accept shadows?

        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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        • TIGT Offline
          TIG Moderator
          last edited by

          No, a textured material will accept a shadow IF it has NO transparency.
          BUT if the texture is a PNG it will NEVER accept a shadow.
          [EDIT: to clarify - if it has a transparency layer set - even if all pixels are opaque!]

          TIG

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          • Dave RD Offline
            Dave R
            last edited by

            TIG, I'm not sure I'm following you.

            Here's a PNG image.
            Cam Clamp.png

            I imported it as a texture which is applied to a face.
            Cam Clamps.png

            It seems to be accepting shadows.

            Or do you mean that if there are any transparent pixels in a PNG texture image, none of it will accept shadows?

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            • hellnbakH Offline
              hellnbak
              last edited by

              I also do not understand. I imported the stone texture as a PNG and it too seems to have no problems accepting the shadow


              2014-09-28_130433.png

              "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                Rich O Brien Moderator
                last edited by

                Try a .png in which the pixels are transparent

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                • Dave RD Offline
                  Dave R
                  last edited by

                  @rich o brien said:

                  Try a .png in which the pixels are transparent

                  Thanks. That makes it clear. πŸ˜„

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                  • hellnbakH Offline
                    hellnbak
                    last edited by

                    What's weird is how the shadow looks with different texture opacity settings -

                    72 percent2014-09-28_130920.png
                    84 percent 2014-09-28_131017.png
                    99 percent 2014-09-28_131105.png
                    and 100 percent 2014-09-28_131124.png

                    "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                    • Dave RD Offline
                      Dave R
                      last edited by

                      At 72% you're seeing the shadow on the ground. At 99% the texture isn't transparent enough to see through.

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                      • hellnbakH Offline
                        hellnbak
                        last edited by

                        Had to really think about that but then the "doh!" moment happened. Never would have figured that out on my own, thanks for explaining.

                        "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                        • TIGT Offline
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                          last edited by

                          To recap...

                          Materials with < 100% opacity [i.e. transparent] of any kind - plain-color/jpg/png etc - will never receive a shadow.
                          If they are >= 70% opacity they will cast shadows - unless they use certain types of texture file, see below...

                          Textured materials that are NOT transparent [100% opaque] will receive and cast shadows, IF the texture file has NO 'transparency layer' defined - e.g. it's a JPG file...

                          BUT if the texture file is a PNG, AND it also has a 'transparency layer' defined, then it will not receive shadows, AND also it will never cast shadows - even if the material itself is set to be is 100% opaque.
                          BUT if the material's texture is a PNG file with no 'transparency layer' defined, then it can accept/cast shadows, just like if a JPG file had been used.

                          TIG

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                          • hellnbakH Offline
                            hellnbak
                            last edited by

                            Yeah, what he said πŸ˜‰

                            "Politicians are just like diapers -- they need to be changed often, and for the same reason"

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                            • BoxB Offline
                              Box
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                              There will be a test on this later and your score will count to your final result.

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