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    [Plugin][$] JointPushPull Interactive - v4.9a - 02 Apr 25

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    • panixiaP Offline
      panixia
      last edited by

      @box said:

      Hi Fredo
      There seems to be an issue with JPP Normal.
      It doesn't produce sides.
      This is running 2021.1.299 on Win 7 with Lib 11.9c and JPP 4.4e

      That's 100% because you set "borders" to "none". πŸ‘

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      • BoxB Offline
        Box
        last edited by

        @panixia said:

        That's 100% because you set "borders" to "none". πŸ‘

        I was sure I had checked that, in fact I'm still sure that I changed to to None while trying to make it work.
        But you are absolutely correct, as soon as I set it to Contour or Grid it works perfectly.
        Sorry Fredo, all good.

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        • panixiaP Offline
          panixia
          last edited by

          @box said:

          @panixia said:

          That's 100% because you set "borders" to "none". πŸ‘

          I was sure I had checked that, in fact I'm still sure that I changed to to None while trying to make it work.
          But you are absolutely correct, as soon as I set it to Contour or Grid it works perfectly.
          Sorry Fredo, all good.

          Glad that it helped.

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          • BoxB Offline
            Box
            last edited by

            @panixia said:

            Glad that it helped.

            One for the D'oh book.

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            • panixiaP Offline
              panixia
              last edited by

              @box said:

              @panixia said:

              Glad that it helped.

              One for the D'oh book.

              Lol! 🀣

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              • Dave RD Offline
                Dave R
                last edited by

                @evilboris said:

                Can anybody help, I get this error with any object using round

                This is in SketchUp 8 as your profile indicates you are using?

                Etaoin Shrdlu

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                • E Offline
                  EvilBoris
                  last edited by

                  Can anybody help?, I get this error with any object using round

                  Date: 13-Oct-21 15:39:35
                  An error occurred in Round Push Pull
                  Error in Analysis of model

                  undefined method `normalize' for nil:NilClass

                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1408 -- block in round_compute_direction
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1406 -- each
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1406 -- round_compute_direction
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1353 -- block in block_prepare_vertices_R
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1353 -- each
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1353 -- block_prepare_vertices_R
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1111 -- block in block_prepare_vertices_all
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1111 -- each
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 1111 -- block_prepare_vertices_all
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 519 -- algo_prepare_calculation_exec
                  jointpushpullalgo.rbe: 499 -- algo_prepare_calculation
                  jointpushpulltool.rbe: 837 -- dragging_start
                  jointpushpulltool.rbe: 1527 -- onLButtonDown

                  I can do this with a new document and a cube and I get this error or in an existing model.

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                  • JQLJ Offline
                    JQL
                    last edited by

                    Cheers,

                    I just found out about JPP Thickening. I use JPP for ages and never noticed it there and now it just solved an issue I had. Great! Just great!

                    Thanks!

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                    • fredo6F Offline
                      fredo6
                      last edited by

                      JPP Thickening is just Joint Push Pull without a button palette. Which issue did it solve?

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                      • JQLJ Offline
                        JQL
                        last edited by

                        I was trying to offset all faces of a surface exactly 20cm and both the regular JPP and Normal JPP failed while thickening seemed to work.

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                        • Peter CzyP Offline
                          Peter Czy
                          last edited by

                          Hello, I've been working with this plugin for a long time.
                          This question comes up in our German forum:
                          Almost all surfaces (objects) can be thickened.
                          Is it also possible to make an object thinner


                          without leaving the side edges and surfaces remaining? If it is possible, please write us how it works.
                          Many Thanks
                          Peter

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                          • BoxB Offline
                            Box
                            last edited by

                            One of the setting with JPP is the second face, if you untick the that then moving inward will make things 'thinner' if that's what you mean.
                            If not, you need to show an example of what you mean.

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                            • Peter CzyP Offline
                              Peter Czy
                              last edited by

                              It's right, the objects get thinner when I push inward. However, edges and surfaces remain that have to be laboriously erased on a complicated object.
                              I mean those edges and lines marked with red arrows.
                              Joint Push Pull.jpg
                              Peter

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                              • BoxB Offline
                                Box
                                last edited by

                                Many questions, many possibilities.
                                Can you not Scale the object or Move the face.
                                The problem with questions like this is there is no single answer, so much depends on the shape and what you want the result to be.
                                Attaching a model would help.

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                                • Peter CzyP Offline
                                  Peter Czy
                                  last edited by

                                  Its only a simple testfileIt's just one question.
                                  Use Joint Push Pull to thin an object without creating edges and faces.
                                  If I just move the face, the thickness won't stay even. The same applies to scaling.

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                                  • BoxB Offline
                                    Box
                                    last edited by

                                    Often the tool you think you need isn't, a simple offset and follow me is another way to do what you want, PP to correct the ends if necessary.
                                    The main point being that there are many ways to do things and some times it pays to think simply.

                                    https://i.imgur.com/gKWTSDP.gif

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                                    • Peter CzyP Offline
                                      Peter Czy
                                      last edited by

                                      Ok, thanks for the other option to change a model. That was of course a very simple test model.
                                      The time required for your option is similar to that of deleting these surfaces / edges according to JPP.
                                      In principle, we don't have an exact answer as to why these edges and faces remain when the object is thinned.
                                      I am sure that only the developer fredo6 can answer that.
                                      I will post this result in our German forum.
                                      Thanks again.
                                      Peter

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                                      • BoxB Offline
                                        Box
                                        last edited by

                                        The reason the edges and faces exist is the nature of the tool, it is pushing back following the face and therefore creating extra geometry.
                                        This is not a bug of a fault in the software, it is doing what is expected.

                                        Use the undo option and jpp less.

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                                        • Dave RD Offline
                                          Dave R
                                          last edited by

                                          Pay attention to what is actually happening when you use JPP. It's extruding in the direction of the normals of the faces as it is designed to do. As Box indicates, it's doing what it is supposed to do even though that's not what you want. If you must use JPP to add the thickness and you want a different thickness, the easy thing to do would be to copy the original surface and run JPP to extrude to the desired thickness.

                                          Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                          • Peter CzyP Offline
                                            Peter Czy
                                            last edited by

                                            Hello Dave and Box,
                                            Yes, I think the best option is to erase the face that has already been made too thick and recreate the reduced thickness.
                                            Thank you!
                                            Peter

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