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    • marvins_dadM 離線
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      @bbrown said:

      @marvins_dad said:

      For the "Make" version (thinking home) will .stl be available?...mainly doing 3d printing at the house these days.

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      • arail1A 離線
        arail1
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        @chrisc said:

        Just a moment...

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        What happens if I decide to skip a year in this program?

        SketchUp Pro commercial licenses never expire, so skipping a year of the program doesn’t affect your use of SketchUp Pro at all. However, if you do decide to skip a year, you can expect a modest reinstatement fee should you choose to renew your upgrade, maintenance, and support program.

        I think you're being disingenuous. Continual use of the existing license isn't the question here. Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I read in your license agreement - if I don't pay for the upgrade now, when a new upgrade is offered, say in 2014, I will no longer be eligible for the upgrade price, I will have to pay full price. In other words, a one year upgrade cycle.

        If this is incorrect you should get on these boards and clarify because that seems to be the common interpretation.

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        • C 離線
          chrisc
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          Maybe this faq is clearer:
          http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000020

          If I skip upgrading to 2013 and upgrade to 2014 instead, will I have to purchase a brand new, full price license?

          No, worst case scenario would be upgrade cost of $95, plus nominal support reinstatement fee (TBD, but will be some percent less than $95). We will update this FAQ as soon as we know more about specific costs.

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          • KrisidiousK 離線
            Krisidious
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            @arail1 said:

            @chrisc said:

            Just a moment...

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            (help.sketchup.com)

            What happens if I decide to skip a year in this program?

            SketchUp Pro commercial licenses never expire, so skipping a year of the program doesn’t affect your use of SketchUp Pro at all. However, if you do decide to skip a year, you can expect a modest reinstatement fee should you choose to renew your upgrade, maintenance, and support program.

            I think you're being disingenuous. Continual use of the existing license isn't the question here. Correct me if I'm wrong but this is what I read in your license agreement - if I don't pay for the upgrade now, when a new upgrade is offered, say in 2014, I will no longer be eligible for the upgrade price, I will have to pay full price. In other words, a one year upgrade cycle.

            If this is incorrect you should get on these boards and clarify because that seems to be the common interpretation.

            It's his or her first post and you call it disingenuous? They said if you don't upgrade there will be a modest fee and I've heard like 3 SU employees say it on these boards in the last 24 hours.

            P.S. if you want the ear of the company don't be rude.

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            • jason_marantoJ 離線
              jason_maranto
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              @chrisc said:

              Maybe this faq is clearer:
              http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000020

              If I skip upgrading to 2013 and upgrade to 2014 instead, will I have to purchase a brand new, full price license?

              No, worst case scenario would be upgrade cost of $95, plus nominal support reinstatement fee (TBD, but will be some percent less than $95). We will update this FAQ as soon as we know more about specific costs.

              Look Chris, I don't know you so this isn't personal -- but how can you say this with a straight face?

              I mean really, somehow it is supposed to be OK that you are going to partial bill for an "update" and "support plan" that the user doesn't even get to use? Meaning if you opt to skip, you are still on the hook for part of that money you would have spent had you upgraded now.

              Let's be honest here -- where is your (a general shout to Trimble here) pride in your craftsmanship? You create software, if your software is not worth upgrading that is your fault, not the fault of the consumer. You should bear the financial burden of that failure, not the consumer.

              [rant] I'll tell you these software companies are really getting quite full of themselves -- do they not notice the open source revolution? All they are doing is pushing people away with these heavy handed tactics to try to compensate for their own lack of quality craftsmanship. [/rant]

              Best,
              Jason.

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              • D 離線
                d12dozr
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                @jpalm32 said:

                And I'm sick of people being sick of people that have real gripes.
                This is not a cult!
                People have a opinons. Don't like it? Move on yourself!
                I mentioned SU printing is like being back on an IBM PC in the 80's and got jumped on also.
                This "update sucks"
                IMO!

                So why don't you voice your 'real gripes' in a constructive manner? How is your or anybody else's whining helping the situation?

                It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.

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                • arail1A 離線
                  arail1
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                  @chrisc said:

                  Maybe this faq is clearer:
                  http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000020

                  If I skip upgrading to 2013 and upgrade to 2014 instead, will I have to purchase a brand new, full price license?

                  No, worst case scenario would be upgrade cost of $95, plus nominal support reinstatement fee (TBD, but will be some percent less than $95). We will update this FAQ as soon as we know more about specific costs.

                  Yes, you should clarify your FAQ about this. Kridious's comments notwithstanding, the previous posts are confusing two issues - continual use of a license once purchased vs upgrade cycle. I can use my existing AutoCAD license forever but I have to upgrade periodically to meet client expectations. I expect a reasonable amount of time before I'm expected to pay for a full license if I have not previously upgraded - which I take to be about 3 to 5 years in the current software environment. The FAQ you linked to clarifies that I can use my existing license continually without interruption but does not address the issue of upgrade cycle.

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                  • Rich O BrienR 線上
                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                    @d12dozr said:

                    It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.

                    'Toddler's on a Plane' I don't see that on IMDB....was it good?

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                    • D 離線
                      d12dozr
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                      @rich o brien said:

                      @d12dozr said:

                      It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.

                      'Toddler's on a Plane' I don't see that on IMDB....was it good?

                      Didn't make it past the first 5 mins 😒

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                      • Rich O BrienR 線上
                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                        最後由 編輯

                        That bad?

                        Maybe the postman will cheer you up within the next 6 months

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                        • D 離線
                          d12dozr
                          最後由 編輯

                          feeling better already 😄

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                          • J 離線
                            jpalm32
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                            @d12dozr said:

                            @jpalm32 said:

                            And I'm sick of people being sick of people that have real gripes.
                            This is not a cult!
                            People have a opinons. Don't like it? Move on yourself!
                            I mentioned SU printing is like being back on an IBM PC in the 80's and got jumped on also.
                            This "update sucks"
                            IMO!

                            So why don't you voice your 'real gripes' in a constructive manner? How is your or anybody else's whining helping the situation?

                            It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.

                            I have tried it! Are you reading the comments towards those critical of this "Update"?
                            So much of gettiing personal, jerk!
                            Hypocrite.
                            Did I mention any name or call someone names??
                            You are what I'm taliking about.
                            Read your post and defend it please.
                            You called me what?

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                            • BoxB 線上
                              Box
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                              Can someone tell me how I got from the SketchUcation forums to the official Trimble complaints forum!

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                              • N 離線
                                numerobis
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                                @chrisc said:

                                Just a moment...

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                                What happens if I decide to skip a year in this program?

                                ...you can expect a modest reinstatement fee should you choose to renew your upgrade...

                                oh, why so cryptic?!? Is this a thing that depends on the frame of mind of the sales person? And what is "modest"? $5, $50, $95, $200?? And why is there this "reinstatement fee" at all? Because the support has to search in another list or only to bug customers?
                                And what happens if i skip two or three updates? A less "modest reinstatement fee"? I can't find anything about it...

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                                • soloS 離線
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                                  This one looks to be heading to the corner bar soon. 😒

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                                  • thomthomT 離線
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                                    [mod=Stop the name-calling!:215v4p5w]Enough already! Behave your self and present your critique constructively! Any more personal attacks and name-calling and I'll start waving my moderator wand!

                                    Ye have all been warned! Keep it constructive and polite![/mod:215v4p5w]

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                                    • Dan RathbunD 離線
                                      Dan Rathbun
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                                      Posted a topic ONLY for 2013 bitches:
                                      http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=52529&p=476103#p476102

                                      I'm not here much anymore.

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                                      • soloS 離線
                                        solo
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                                        @thomthom said:

                                        [mod=Stop the name-calling!:2py9mdax]Enough already! Behave your self and present your critique constructively! Any more personal attacks and name-calling and I'll start waving my moderator wand!

                                        Ye have all been warned! Keep it constructive and polite![/mod:2py9mdax]

                                        This is why we need a "LIKE" button.

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                                        • KrisidiousK 離線
                                          Krisidious
                                          最後由 編輯

                                          Oh Hell Thom brought out the Pink Quote.

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                                          • Alan FraserA 離線
                                            Alan Fraser
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                                            Moderator wand? I've never heard it called that before. 😉

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