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    • jason_marantoJ Offline
      jason_maranto
      last edited by

      @chrisc said:

      Maybe this faq is clearer:
      http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000020

      If I skip upgrading to 2013 and upgrade to 2014 instead, will I have to purchase a brand new, full price license?

      No, worst case scenario would be upgrade cost of $95, plus nominal support reinstatement fee (TBD, but will be some percent less than $95). We will update this FAQ as soon as we know more about specific costs.

      Look Chris, I don't know you so this isn't personal -- but how can you say this with a straight face?

      I mean really, somehow it is supposed to be OK that you are going to partial bill for an "update" and "support plan" that the user doesn't even get to use? Meaning if you opt to skip, you are still on the hook for part of that money you would have spent had you upgraded now.

      Let's be honest here -- where is your (a general shout to Trimble here) pride in your craftsmanship? You create software, if your software is not worth upgrading that is your fault, not the fault of the consumer. You should bear the financial burden of that failure, not the consumer.

      [rant] I'll tell you these software companies are really getting quite full of themselves -- do they not notice the open source revolution? All they are doing is pushing people away with these heavy handed tactics to try to compensate for their own lack of quality craftsmanship. [/rant]

      Best,
      Jason.

      I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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        d12dozr
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        @jpalm32 said:

        And I'm sick of people being sick of people that have real gripes.
        This is not a cult!
        People have a opinons. Don't like it? Move on yourself!
        I mentioned SU printing is like being back on an IBM PC in the 80's and got jumped on also.
        This "update sucks"
        IMO!

        So why don't you voice your 'real gripes' in a constructive manner? How is your or anybody else's whining helping the situation?

        It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.

        3D Printing with SketchUp Book
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        • arail1A Offline
          arail1
          last edited by

          @chrisc said:

          Maybe this faq is clearer:
          http://help.sketchup.com/en/article/3000020

          If I skip upgrading to 2013 and upgrade to 2014 instead, will I have to purchase a brand new, full price license?

          No, worst case scenario would be upgrade cost of $95, plus nominal support reinstatement fee (TBD, but will be some percent less than $95). We will update this FAQ as soon as we know more about specific costs.

          Yes, you should clarify your FAQ about this. Kridious's comments notwithstanding, the previous posts are confusing two issues - continual use of a license once purchased vs upgrade cycle. I can use my existing AutoCAD license forever but I have to upgrade periodically to meet client expectations. I expect a reasonable amount of time before I'm expected to pay for a full license if I have not previously upgraded - which I take to be about 3 to 5 years in the current software environment. The FAQ you linked to clarifies that I can use my existing license continually without interruption but does not address the issue of upgrade cycle.

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          • Rich O BrienR Offline
            Rich O Brien Moderator
            last edited by

            @d12dozr said:

            It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.

            'Toddler's on a Plane' I don't see that on IMDB....was it good?

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              d12dozr
              last edited by

              @rich o brien said:

              @d12dozr said:

              It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.

              'Toddler's on a Plane' I don't see that on IMDB....was it good?

              Didn't make it past the first 5 mins πŸ˜’

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              http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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              • Rich O BrienR Offline
                Rich O Brien Moderator
                last edited by

                That bad?

                Maybe the postman will cheer you up within the next 6 months

                Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                • D Offline
                  d12dozr
                  last edited by

                  feeling better already πŸ˜„

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                  http://goo.gl/f7ooYh

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                  • J Offline
                    jpalm32
                    last edited by

                    @d12dozr said:

                    @jpalm32 said:

                    And I'm sick of people being sick of people that have real gripes.
                    This is not a cult!
                    People have a opinons. Don't like it? Move on yourself!
                    I mentioned SU printing is like being back on an IBM PC in the 80's and got jumped on also.
                    This "update sucks"
                    IMO!

                    So why don't you voice your 'real gripes' in a constructive manner? How is your or anybody else's whining helping the situation?

                    It feels like hanging with toddlers on a plane in here. Grow up already.

                    I have tried it! Are you reading the comments towards those critical of this "Update"?
                    So much of gettiing personal, jerk!
                    Hypocrite.
                    Did I mention any name or call someone names??
                    You are what I'm taliking about.
                    Read your post and defend it please.
                    You called me what?

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                    • BoxB Offline
                      Box
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                      Can someone tell me how I got from the SketchUcation forums to the official Trimble complaints forum!

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                      • N Offline
                        numerobis
                        last edited by

                        @chrisc said:

                        Just a moment...

                        favicon

                        (help.sketchup.com)

                        What happens if I decide to skip a year in this program?

                        ...you can expect a modest reinstatement fee should you choose to renew your upgrade...

                        oh, why so cryptic?!? Is this a thing that depends on the frame of mind of the sales person? And what is "modest"? $5, $50, $95, $200?? And why is there this "reinstatement fee" at all? Because the support has to search in another list or only to bug customers?
                        And what happens if i skip two or three updates? A less "modest reinstatement fee"? I can't find anything about it...

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                        • soloS Offline
                          solo
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                          This one looks to be heading to the corner bar soon. πŸ˜’

                          http://www.solos-art.com

                          If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                          • thomthomT Offline
                            thomthom
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                            [mod=Stop the name-calling!:215v4p5w]Enough already! Behave your self and present your critique constructively! Any more personal attacks and name-calling and I'll start waving my moderator wand!

                            Ye have all been warned! Keep it constructive and polite![/mod:215v4p5w]

                            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
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                            • Dan RathbunD Offline
                              Dan Rathbun
                              last edited by

                              Posted a topic ONLY for 2013 bitches:
                              http://sketchucation.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=15&t=52529&p=476103#p476102

                              I'm not here much anymore.

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                              • soloS Offline
                                solo
                                last edited by

                                @thomthom said:

                                [mod=Stop the name-calling!:2py9mdax]Enough already! Behave your self and present your critique constructively! Any more personal attacks and name-calling and I'll start waving my moderator wand!

                                Ye have all been warned! Keep it constructive and polite![/mod:2py9mdax]

                                This is why we need a "LIKE" button.

                                http://www.solos-art.com

                                If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                • KrisidiousK Offline
                                  Krisidious
                                  last edited by

                                  Oh Hell Thom brought out the Pink Quote.

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                                  • Alan FraserA Offline
                                    Alan Fraser
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                                    Moderator wand? I've never heard it called that before. πŸ˜‰

                                    3D Figures
                                    Were you required to walk 500 miles? Were you advised to walk 500 more?
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                                    • charly2008C Offline
                                      charly2008
                                      last edited by

                                      I've done the speed test in both versions. I do not know if this is due to improvements!


                                      2013-05-24_153920.jpg

                                      He who makes no mistakes, makes nothing

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                                      • D Offline
                                        d12dozr
                                        last edited by

                                        @jpalm sorry if you thought I called you anything. I was just expressing my opinion of the general atmosphere of the thread.
                                        Have one on me

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                                        • Mike AmosM Offline
                                          Mike Amos
                                          last edited by

                                          @alan fraser said:

                                          Moderator wand? I've never heard it called that before. πŸ˜‰

                                          I suppose it depends on where the user sticks it.

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                                          • olisheaO Offline
                                            olishea
                                            last edited by

                                            please tell me that's not a render πŸ˜†

                                            oli

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