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    • brookefoxB 離線
      brookefox
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      So Pilou's example shows it is completely understandable to be frustrated by this tool: his face is in no reasonable way perpendicular to his circle?

      ~ Brooke

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      • pilouP 離線
        pilou
        最後由 編輯

        Hum hum 😉
        The circle is on the flat ground, the face of the profile form is vertical!
        So they are perpendicular!

        rotatecircle1.jpg

        Frenchy Pilou
        Is beautiful that please without concept!
        My Little site :)

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        • brookefoxB 離線
          brookefox
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          I would say that the face is perpendicular to the ground and to the plane of the circle, but not to the circle itself. But I accept yours as an explanation of why it works for your case. 😉

          Still, I say not so tight as is implied by 'understand and abide by the rules as stated and all will be revealed.' 😐

          Unless, perhaps, the usage were clarified to

          @unknownuser said:

          Draw a circle whose edge will represent the path.
          Draw a face perpendicular to (the circle or to) the plane of the circle. The face does not have to be on or even touch the circle's path.

          ~ Brooke

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          • BoxB 離線
            Box
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            Utter Gibberish.

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            • pilouP 離線
              pilou
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              You can cut the circle after its rotation for keep the segments perpendicular 😄
              rotatecircle.jpg

              Frenchy Pilou
              Is beautiful that please without concept!
              My Little site :)

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              • pilouP 離線
                pilou
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                @unknownuser said:

                to draw the arc with an odd number of segments

                I am affraid that the segments of extremity will be not perpendicular! 😉
                Arc of 25 segments 93.6°
                (Arc of 24 segments 93.7°)
                Arc of 23 segments 93.9°

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                • pbacotP 離線
                  pbacot
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                  Partly this issue is due to follow me requirements (answer: get Profile Builder). Partly it's about working with SU arcs. True arcs would not give the problem in OP's setup.

                  I wonder in regards to half arcs and quarter arcs, and even in respect to the cardinal points of circles why does SU draw them one way (Noted 12 in picture) and not the other (noted 13)? I know that segments of equal length are given for arcs. But is that really any use?

                  Both arcs are from the same circle, or (for SU) represent the same half circle.

                  What if every arc started with half a segment. Or an alternate (hold option key down) provided this feature? I think the arc marked 13 gives a better shape and can be more usable in drawing, if those were the issues. Would it break some rule of logic, geometry, or SU?


                  arcs tyes.png

                  MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                  • T 離線
                    Trogluddite
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                    Assuming that the baseline is the same length, those two arcs do not share the same radius - the 'across the flats' version is slightly larger. This is because SU always takes the radius from centre to an apex - the standard arc has lines slightly within the drawn diameter, and No.13 extends slightly beyond.
                    Whether this matters probably depends on what you're modelling and what the purpose of the model is - but I think there does need to be a consistent method of determining the 'nominal' radius, for those folks who need to dimension their drawings.
                    A quick way to draw the alternative would sure be handy though.

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                    • pbacotP 離線
                      pbacot
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                      Actually they are from the same circle, so the base lines are not the same. So I see, the way SU defines the radius this would mean arc #13 would have other problems and an arch drawn with it would not dimension properly. I keep wanting to put "circle" and "arc" in quotes. The same issue we beat to death here, but not quite, regarding finding points that would easily be defined by a true arc.

                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                      • Rich O BrienR 離線
                        Rich O Brien Moderator
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                        @Pilou

                        Doesn't TIG have some plugin that draws arc in this way?

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                        • pilouP 離線
                          pilou
                          最後由 編輯

                          Sorry I must miss something! 😳
                          How do you draw the "13" arc for have perpendicular segments without a rotation?
                          If you make a rotation, what is advantage to have odd number except kabalistic 😄
                          I have not that! 😳
                          (view top)
                          12-13.jpg


                          12-13.skp

                          Frenchy Pilou
                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                          My Little site :)

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                          • pilouP 離線
                            pilou
                            最後由 編輯

                            Maybe Tig True Tangent ?

                            Arc curve set ? by Tig

                            Arc by tools by TIG ☀

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                            • TIGT 離線
                              TIG Moderator
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                              Capture.PNG

                              TIG

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                              • pilouP 離線
                                pilou
                                最後由 編輯

                                It's my previous method above ☀

                                http://forums.sketchucation.com/download/file.php?id=89720&t=1

                                Frenchy Pilou
                                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                My Little site :)

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                                • Dave RD 離線
                                  Dave R
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                                  I did that but you showed it in more detail. Thank you.

                                  Although it would be nice if SketchUP did real circles without vertices, we have to live with what it does do. It's not that difficult to set up the Follow Me path and the profile perpendicular to each other.

                                  Etaoin Shrdlu

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                                  • Rich O BrienR 離線
                                    Rich O Brien Moderator
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                                    I wonder if the OP has quit?

                                    Lot's of great answers here but so far silence from Anarchist86ed.

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                                    • pbacotP 離線
                                      pbacot
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                                      @unknownuser said:

                                      Sorry I must miss something! 😳
                                      How do you draw the "13" arc for have perpendicular segments without a rotation?
                                      If you make a rotation, what is advantage to have odd number except kabalistic 😄
                                      I have not that! 😳
                                      (view top)
                                      [attachment=1:nfr6v75i]<!-- ia1 -->12-13.jpg<!-- ia1 -->[/attachment:nfr6v75i]

                                      That's how you do it.

                                      I would think the answer to the second question was obvious, the point of our conversation.

                                      I will continue to wonder about other ways of doing things and try to understand what is the reasoning.

                                      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                      • soloS 離線
                                        solo
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                                        @rich o brien said:

                                        I wonder if the OP has quit?

                                        🤣

                                        http://www.solos-art.com

                                        If you see a toilet in your dreams do not use it.

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                                        • pbacotP 離線
                                          pbacot
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                                          I wonder if you are Anarchist "86ed" (see english idom) you've been kicked out of the anarchists , or if 85 other anarchists are boss of you? 😉

                                          MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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