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    • jeff hammondJ Offline
      jeff hammond
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      @thomthom said:

      @unknownuser said:

      you can find all the info of the hypotenuse (green) in a variety of ways .. (for instance, a^2 + b^2 = c^2 to get its length.. you'll know a & b in this case… then trig for the angles)

      that hypotenuse is also the the hypotenuse of the un-trimmed board (red).. so you know the board width and the length of its hypotenuse which means you can get all other angles and lengths..

      I was suspecting something like that - but my trigonometry knowledge was all too poor that I dared place bets on it.

      SOH CAH TOA πŸ˜„

      that's one of the things that seemed to stick with me after leaving school..

      Sine = Opposite/Hypotenuse
      Cosine = Adjacent/Hypotenuse
      Tangent = Opposite/Adjacent

      dotdotdot

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      • Dave RD Offline
        Dave R
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        That stuck with me, too. I can't remember who I took to prom, though.

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        • thomthomT Offline
          thomthom
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          @unknownuser said:

          Sine = Opposite/Hypotenuse
          Cosine = Adjacent/Hypotenuse
          Tangent = Opposite/Adjacent

          Trouble is that I don't even remember what to use of this. I'm really annoying - I always have to look up this stuff, reading for a while, whenever I need to do such work with my plugins. ...which, when you place plugins for 3D software... ...I really should be knowing this... 😳

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          • thomthomT Offline
            thomthom
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            @jason_maranto said:

            Well, I figured out some of the accuracy issue on my last approach -- a bit of user error on my part since I was rotating the guidepoint to the wrong place and also the accuracy setting of the rotate tool was not set high enough... actually this still isn't exactly accurate (rotated to 45.6085) but it's pretty close now.

            Try with the posts further apart - then you'll catch accuracy issue much easier. When it's close to 45 degrees it's harder to spot.

            Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
            List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            • jason_marantoJ Offline
              jason_maranto
              last edited by

              Well, I figured out some of the accuracy issue on my last approach -- a bit of user error on my part since I was rotating the guidepoint to the wrong place and also the accuracy setting of the rotate tool was not set high enough... actually this still isn't exactly accurate (rotated to 45.6085) but it's pretty close now.

              challenge_alt2.jpg

              @Jeff - I checked every aspect of interacting with a DC, it shows nothing for me.

              Edit -- Gotcha, you have to actually open the model instead of bringing it in as a component.

              Best,
              Jason.

              I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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              • jeff hammondJ Offline
                jeff hammond
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                @jason_maranto said:

                @Jeff - I checked every aspect of interacting with a DC, it shows nothing for me.

                oh man.. that reminds me of some problem with sharing dynamic components.. are you directly opening the file i posted or are you bringing it in to an existing model?

                you have to just open the file i posted then the options should be available..
                (or something like that.. ❓ i remember having problems with bringing in DCs from the warehouse into existing models and none of the options were available.)

                dotdotdot

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                • jeff hammondJ Offline
                  jeff hammond
                  last edited by

                  @thomthom said:

                  @unknownuser said:

                  Sine = Opposite/Hypotenuse
                  Cosine = Adjacent/Hypotenuse
                  Tangent = Opposite/Adjacent

                  Trouble is that I don't even remember what to use of this. I'm really annoying - I always have to look up this stuff, reading for a while, whenever I need to do such work with my plugins. ...which, when you place plugins for 3D software... ...I really should be knowing this... 😳

                  ha.. i always figured you ruby gurus were math wizards.. πŸ˜„
                  nice to know you're sitting around looking things up on a per case basis like the rest of us πŸ˜‰

                  dotdotdot

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                  • thomthomT Offline
                    thomthom
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                    @unknownuser said:

                    ha.. i always figured you ruby gurus were math wizards.. πŸ˜„

                    You really don't need to muddle around with math too much when making plugins for SketchUp. Their API is doing lots of the heavy work. I don't even fully understand the transformation matrix - though reading up on that now.

                    @unknownuser said:

                    nice to know you're sitting around looking things up on a per case basis like the rest of us πŸ˜‰

                    I do that for everything I do - always. Simply because I like to know I'm doing stuff correct and efficient.

                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    • jason_marantoJ Offline
                      jason_maranto
                      last edited by

                      This method still works as expected no matter the distance -- the problem is just that the rotate tool is not precise enough to put the guidepoint exactly where it should be.

                      challenge_alt3.jpg

                      @Jeff -- yeah, sorry my habit is to bring them into a model via the component browser, so it was my fault.

                      Best,
                      Jason.

                      I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                      • gillesG Offline
                        gilles
                        last edited by

                        I 've found a tricky way.


                        Mini-challenge.skp

                        " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
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                          @dave r said:

                          That stuck with me, too. I can't remember who I took to prom, though.

                          πŸ˜†

                          (I don't think I even went to prom.. maybe)

                          dotdotdot

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                          • jeff hammondJ Offline
                            jeff hammond
                            last edited by

                            @gilles said:

                            I 've found a tricky way.

                            really? sweet!
                            I'm on a phone now so I can't see it but the suspense is killing me πŸ˜„

                            can anyone verify?

                            dotdotdot

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                            • jason_marantoJ Offline
                              jason_maranto
                              last edited by

                              Wow, that is tricky... I never would have approached it that way.

                              What gave you the answer?

                              Best,
                              Jason.

                              I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                              • andybotA Offline
                                andybot
                                last edited by

                                Nice one! works for me!

                                http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                                • gillesG Offline
                                  gilles
                                  last edited by

                                  I dont even know, just an intuition.
                                  So do I won something? πŸ’š

                                  " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                  • thomthomT Offline
                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by

                                    @gilles said:

                                    So do I won something? πŸ’š

                                    Yes - the honor of authoring the next challenge! πŸ˜„

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    • thomthomT Offline
                                      thomthom
                                      last edited by

                                      Unfortunately - the lines are not parallel:
                                      Accuracy.png

                                      Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                      List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      • jeff hammondJ Offline
                                        jeff hammond
                                        last edited by

                                        @thomthom said:

                                        Unfortunately - the lines are not parallel:
                                        [attachment=0:1xhfujx7]<!-- ia0 -->Accuracy.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1xhfujx7]

                                        bah!
                                        I was hoping gilles nailed it

                                        dotdotdot

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                                        • andybotA Offline
                                          andybot
                                          last edited by

                                          @thomthom said:

                                          Unfortunately - the lines are not parallel:

                                          What's missing? I redid it from scratch. I would suggest drawing a guide-line inferenced perpendicular to the new diagonal lines. (I group the newly drawn diagonals so I can rotate exactly to the perpendicular.)


                                          diagonal1.skp

                                          http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                                          • TIGT Offline
                                            TIG Moderator
                                            last edited by

                                            My solution - many posts back - using my True-Tangents script's 'True Intersections' - finds the correct point to be used...
                                            It also uses "trigonometry" to calculate the values for the point - like the DC...
                                            It's as accurate as you can get.

                                            My subsequent "plugin-free" approach does it by say three rotate/scale combos until the accuracy is so tiny it could be ignored...

                                            TIG

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