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  • J Offline
    jeff hammond
    last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 17:47

    @thomthom said:

    @unknownuser said:

    you can find all the info of the hypotenuse (green) in a variety of ways .. (for instance, a^2 + b^2 = c^2 to get its length.. you'll know a & b in this case… then trig for the angles)

    that hypotenuse is also the the hypotenuse of the un-trimmed board (red).. so you know the board width and the length of its hypotenuse which means you can get all other angles and lengths..

    I was suspecting something like that - but my trigonometry knowledge was all too poor that I dared place bets on it.

    SOH CAH TOA πŸ˜„

    that's one of the things that seemed to stick with me after leaving school..

    Sine = Opposite/Hypotenuse
    Cosine = Adjacent/Hypotenuse
    Tangent = Opposite/Adjacent

    dotdotdot

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      Dave R
      last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 17:55

      That stuck with me, too. I can't remember who I took to prom, though.

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        thomthom
        last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 17:58

        @unknownuser said:

        Sine = Opposite/Hypotenuse
        Cosine = Adjacent/Hypotenuse
        Tangent = Opposite/Adjacent

        Trouble is that I don't even remember what to use of this. I'm really annoying - I always have to look up this stuff, reading for a while, whenever I need to do such work with my plugins. ...which, when you place plugins for 3D software... ...I really should be knowing this... 😳

        Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
        List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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          thomthom
          last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 17:59

          @jason_maranto said:

          Well, I figured out some of the accuracy issue on my last approach -- a bit of user error on my part since I was rotating the guidepoint to the wrong place and also the accuracy setting of the rotate tool was not set high enough... actually this still isn't exactly accurate (rotated to 45.6085) but it's pretty close now.

          Try with the posts further apart - then you'll catch accuracy issue much easier. When it's close to 45 degrees it's harder to spot.

          Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
          List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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            jason_maranto
            last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:00

            Well, I figured out some of the accuracy issue on my last approach -- a bit of user error on my part since I was rotating the guidepoint to the wrong place and also the accuracy setting of the rotate tool was not set high enough... actually this still isn't exactly accurate (rotated to 45.6085) but it's pretty close now.

            challenge_alt2.jpg

            @Jeff - I checked every aspect of interacting with a DC, it shows nothing for me.

            Edit -- Gotcha, you have to actually open the model instead of bringing it in as a component.

            Best,
            Jason.

            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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              jeff hammond
              last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:01

              @jason_maranto said:

              @Jeff - I checked every aspect of interacting with a DC, it shows nothing for me.

              oh man.. that reminds me of some problem with sharing dynamic components.. are you directly opening the file i posted or are you bringing it in to an existing model?

              you have to just open the file i posted then the options should be available..
              (or something like that.. ❓ i remember having problems with bringing in DCs from the warehouse into existing models and none of the options were available.)

              dotdotdot

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                jeff hammond
                last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:03

                @thomthom said:

                @unknownuser said:

                Sine = Opposite/Hypotenuse
                Cosine = Adjacent/Hypotenuse
                Tangent = Opposite/Adjacent

                Trouble is that I don't even remember what to use of this. I'm really annoying - I always have to look up this stuff, reading for a while, whenever I need to do such work with my plugins. ...which, when you place plugins for 3D software... ...I really should be knowing this... 😳

                ha.. i always figured you ruby gurus were math wizards.. πŸ˜„
                nice to know you're sitting around looking things up on a per case basis like the rest of us πŸ˜‰

                dotdotdot

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                  thomthom
                  last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:05

                  @unknownuser said:

                  ha.. i always figured you ruby gurus were math wizards.. πŸ˜„

                  You really don't need to muddle around with math too much when making plugins for SketchUp. Their API is doing lots of the heavy work. I don't even fully understand the transformation matrix - though reading up on that now.

                  @unknownuser said:

                  nice to know you're sitting around looking things up on a per case basis like the rest of us πŸ˜‰

                  I do that for everything I do - always. Simply because I like to know I'm doing stuff correct and efficient.

                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                    jason_maranto
                    last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:09

                    This method still works as expected no matter the distance -- the problem is just that the rotate tool is not precise enough to put the guidepoint exactly where it should be.

                    challenge_alt3.jpg

                    @Jeff -- yeah, sorry my habit is to bring them into a model via the component browser, so it was my fault.

                    Best,
                    Jason.

                    I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                      gilles
                      last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:32

                      I 've found a tricky way.


                      Mini-challenge.skp

                      " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                        jeff hammond
                        last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:33

                        @dave r said:

                        That stuck with me, too. I can't remember who I took to prom, though.

                        πŸ˜†

                        (I don't think I even went to prom.. maybe)

                        dotdotdot

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                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:34

                          @gilles said:

                          I 've found a tricky way.

                          really? sweet!
                          I'm on a phone now so I can't see it but the suspense is killing me πŸ˜„

                          can anyone verify?

                          dotdotdot

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                            jason_maranto
                            last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:38

                            Wow, that is tricky... I never would have approached it that way.

                            What gave you the answer?

                            Best,
                            Jason.

                            I create video tutorial series about several 2D & 3D graphics programs.

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                              andybot
                              last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:42

                              Nice one! works for me!

                              http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                                gilles
                                last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:47

                                I dont even know, just an intuition.
                                So do I won something? πŸ’š

                                " c'est curieux chez les marins ce besoin de faire des phrases "

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                                  thomthom
                                  last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:48

                                  @gilles said:

                                  So do I won something? πŸ’š

                                  Yes - the honor of authoring the next challenge! πŸ˜„

                                  Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                  List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                    thomthom
                                    last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 18:59

                                    Unfortunately - the lines are not parallel:
                                    Accuracy.png

                                    Thomas Thomassen β€” SketchUp Monkey & Coding addict
                                    List of my plugins and link to the CookieWare fund

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                                      jeff hammond
                                      last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 19:07

                                      @thomthom said:

                                      Unfortunately - the lines are not parallel:
                                      [attachment=0:1xhfujx7]<!-- ia0 -->Accuracy.png<!-- ia0 -->[/attachment:1xhfujx7]

                                      bah!
                                      I was hoping gilles nailed it

                                      dotdotdot

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                                        andybot
                                        last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 19:19

                                        @thomthom said:

                                        Unfortunately - the lines are not parallel:

                                        What's missing? I redid it from scratch. I would suggest drawing a guide-line inferenced perpendicular to the new diagonal lines. (I group the newly drawn diagonals so I can rotate exactly to the perpendicular.)


                                        diagonal1.skp

                                        http://charlottesvillearchitecturalrendering.com/

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                                          TIG Moderator
                                          last edited by 30 Apr 2012, 19:22

                                          My solution - many posts back - using my True-Tangents script's 'True Intersections' - finds the correct point to be used...
                                          It also uses "trigonometry" to calculate the values for the point - like the DC...
                                          It's as accurate as you can get.

                                          My subsequent "plugin-free" approach does it by say three rotate/scale combos until the accuracy is so tiny it could be ignored...

                                          TIG

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