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    • EarthMoverE Offline
      EarthMover
      last edited by

      Thanks guys.

      The methodology is quite simple, just looking to automate a tedious task.

      Pilou, what you've done can be achieved with a single tool - "Protrude" from Jim.

      Boolean makes a lot of sense, as in Jeff's example, but creating the cutting object is still tedious on something like wood deck or brick banding.

      Here is a simple video of what I'm looking to achieve.

      [flash=420,315:255ldakm]http://www.youtube.com/v/ivSEfcAVRjE[/flash:255ldakm]

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      • TIGT Offline
        TIG Moderator
        last edited by

        I'm still thinking about it...
        It is quite complex to automate as there are many possibilities of coplanar faces and innie/outie angles etc...

        TIG

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        • pbacotP Offline
          pbacot
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          @tig said:

          I'm still thinking about it...

          I can tell, by that swishing tail. πŸ˜„

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          • EarthMoverE Offline
            EarthMover
            last edited by

            Thanks TIG for giving it some thought. Glad to know a worthy mind is pondering it. I can definitely see how the all the different variables make it tough to automate and assume that is why the request went unfulfilled in the past. Even a script with limited scenario capability would be helpful.

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            • jeff hammondJ Offline
              jeff hammond
              last edited by

              right.. drawing all the pieces to subtract can be the part that takes the longest.

              one thing to note, if you do end up going that route, is that you can have multiple solids inside a group and it will still count as a single solid. (so the Boolean action can happen once instead of doing each 'C' (in this case) individually.).. it can't be soild groups inside a group though.. all raw geometry inside one single group.

              in other words.. draw two unconnected cubes.. group them together.. these cubes will be recognized as a solid group and can be used with the solid tools.

              good luck.

              dotdotdot

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              • HieruH Offline
                Hieru
                last edited by

                I can think of so many different applications for this kind of tool. For tiles, bricks, wooden flooring etc, etc, it'll be a great time saver.

                www.davidhier.co.uk

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                • EarthMoverE Offline
                  EarthMover
                  last edited by

                  @unknownuser said:

                  right.. drawing all the pieces to subtract can be the part that takes the longest.

                  one thing to note, if you do end up going that route, is that you can have multiple solids inside a group and it will still count as a single solid. (so the Boolean action can happen once instead of doing each 'C' (in this case) individually.).. it can't be soild groups inside a group though.. all raw geometry inside one single group.

                  in other words.. draw two unconnected cubes.. group them together.. these cubes will be recognized as a solid group and can be used with the solid tools.

                  good luck.

                  True, ultimately it may just easier to automate the cutting object process through ruby. Something like "Lines to cube tube" Something like Didier's "Lines to Tubes" except that it will create 4 sided solid cutting object or shelled multiple objects. Unfortunately free users would not benefit from this. I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    In my sens for a Rubyman
                    Just modify the "Multiple face offset" with only 2 lateral sides against 4 ! So a special offset!
                    And my first trick will be quasi perfect! πŸ˜‰

                    But there are surely another possibilities πŸ˜„
                    Cool headache πŸ‘

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                    • pilouP Offline
                      pilou
                      last edited by

                      @unknownuser said:

                      what you've done can be achieved with a single tool - "Protrude" from Jim.

                      Effectively! πŸ˜„
                      Can you post you your example in V6 ?
                      Does has "internal faces" ?

                      Frenchy Pilou
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                      • EarthMoverE Offline
                        EarthMover
                        last edited by

                        @unknownuser said:

                        Effectively! πŸ˜„
                        Can you post you your example in V6 ?
                        Does has "internal faces" ?

                        Sorry Pilou...don't have V6 installed anymore. See shots from V8. The internal faces are removed.

                        The protrude tool (http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2007/10/plugin-protrude.html) is effective for doing flat surface grooves such as hardwood flooring, etc. It's where the groove has to turn a corner that is the issue. I wonder if it could be adapted to do the same thing, but instead of regular offset and push pull, use the Offset on Surface method and Joint Push pull. This would allow you to soften the corners, then the tool could just offset the grooves and JPP the faces.


                        protrude.jpg


                        protrude_Inside.jpg

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                        • jeff hammondJ Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by

                          @unknownuser said:

                          I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

                          it does.. select all the lines then use the 2nd icon (build along path followme.. or smthg like that)

                          the problem however is going to be that the vertical tubes won't orient properly in your drawing.. they'll all be on the XY instead of rotating.

                          dotdotdot

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                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                            EarthMover
                            last edited by

                            @unknownuser said:

                            @unknownuser said:

                            I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

                            it does.. select all the lines then use the 2nd icon (build along path followme.. or smthg like that)

                            Doesn't seem to work on multiple closed edge loops, i.e. the test model I posted. Although you are right, on non closed edge loops, multiple selections does work, which is great. Creating the profile from middle and then outer shelling them makes a great groove cutting group, even with curves.

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                            • jeff hammondJ Offline
                              jeff hammond
                              last edited by

                              @earthmover said:

                              @unknownuser said:

                              @unknownuser said:

                              I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

                              it does.. select all the lines then use the 2nd icon (build along path followme.. or smthg like that)

                              Doesn't seem to work on multiple closed edge loops, i.e. the test model I posted. Although you are right, on non closed edge loops, multiple selections does work, which is great. Creating the profile from middle and then outer shelling them makes a great groove cutting group, even with curves.

                              oh. my bad. I'm on a phone today with only a slight memory of seeing your model last night πŸ˜‰
                              I thought the grooves were Cs instead of rectangles.

                              dotdotdot

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                              • pilouP Offline
                                pilou
                                last edited by

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Sorry Pilou...don't have V6 installed anymore.

                                Last V8 don't permit Save as V6 ? 😲

                                The viewer V8 don't work on my old computer! 😳

                                Frenchy Pilou
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                                My Little site :)

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                                • EarthMoverE Offline
                                  EarthMover
                                  last edited by

                                  I remember also, just can't seem to find it.

                                  Actually support for adjoining faces which are not coplanar would be preferable.

                                  I would like to add groves to something like the following -

                                  Edge 2 Groove test model.jpg

                                  Edge 2 Groove test model2.jpg


                                  Edge 2 Groove test model.skp

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                                  • EarthMoverE Offline
                                    EarthMover
                                    last edited by

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    @unknownuser said:

                                    Sorry Pilou...don't have V6 installed anymore.

                                    Last V8 don't permit Save as V6 ? 😲

                                    The viewer V8 don't work on my old computer! 😳

                                    Sorry Pilou, I misunderstood. I updated the test model saved as V6.

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                                    • pilouP Offline
                                      pilou
                                      last edited by

                                      No Problem πŸ˜‰
                                      Many Thanks !
                                      In therory if the there no special element like DC or other news it's better to save in V6 πŸ˜„
                                      As like, V6, V7, V8 users can reload it πŸ˜‰

                                      Frenchy Pilou
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                                      My Little site :)

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                                      • Rich O BrienR Offline
                                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                                        last edited by

                                        @Pilou

                                        Do you have v8 installed? Surely you must... 😲

                                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

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                                        • sdmitchS Offline
                                          sdmitch
                                          last edited by

                                          In my plugin, the top groove is not a problem. But the side grooves either cross or diverge when pushpulled due to the faces not being coplanar.

                                          Grooves.png

                                          as the image shows.

                                          Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                          http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                                          • pilouP Offline
                                            pilou
                                            last edited by

                                            Yes but on other computer
                                            I have this old one (ten years) for test some programs for old configs for some coders πŸ˜„

                                            Frenchy Pilou
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