• Login
sketchucation logo sketchucation
  • Login
πŸ€‘ SketchPlus 1.3 | 44 Tools for $15 until June 20th Buy Now

[REQ] Edge 2 Groove

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Plugins
68 Posts 11 Posters 5.2k Views
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • T Offline
    TIG Moderator
    last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 16:43

    I'm still thinking about it...
    It is quite complex to automate as there are many possibilities of coplanar faces and innie/outie angles etc...

    TIG

    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
    • P Offline
      pbacot
      last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 17:02

      @tig said:

      I'm still thinking about it...

      I can tell, by that swishing tail. πŸ˜„

      MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
      • E Offline
        EarthMover
        last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 17:03

        Thanks TIG for giving it some thought. Glad to know a worthy mind is pondering it. I can definitely see how the all the different variables make it tough to automate and assume that is why the request went unfulfilled in the past. Even a script with limited scenario capability would be helpful.

        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
        Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
        Content Creator at Skapeup

        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
        • J Offline
          jeff hammond
          last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 17:55

          right.. drawing all the pieces to subtract can be the part that takes the longest.

          one thing to note, if you do end up going that route, is that you can have multiple solids inside a group and it will still count as a single solid. (so the Boolean action can happen once instead of doing each 'C' (in this case) individually.).. it can't be soild groups inside a group though.. all raw geometry inside one single group.

          in other words.. draw two unconnected cubes.. group them together.. these cubes will be recognized as a solid group and can be used with the solid tools.

          good luck.

          dotdotdot

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • H Offline
            Hieru
            last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 18:12

            I can think of so many different applications for this kind of tool. For tiles, bricks, wooden flooring etc, etc, it'll be a great time saver.

            www.davidhier.co.uk

            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
            • E Offline
              EarthMover
              last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 18:47

              @unknownuser said:

              right.. drawing all the pieces to subtract can be the part that takes the longest.

              one thing to note, if you do end up going that route, is that you can have multiple solids inside a group and it will still count as a single solid. (so the Boolean action can happen once instead of doing each 'C' (in this case) individually.).. it can't be soild groups inside a group though.. all raw geometry inside one single group.

              in other words.. draw two unconnected cubes.. group them together.. these cubes will be recognized as a solid group and can be used with the solid tools.

              good luck.

              True, ultimately it may just easier to automate the cutting object process through ruby. Something like "Lines to cube tube" Something like Didier's "Lines to Tubes" except that it will create 4 sided solid cutting object or shelled multiple objects. Unfortunately free users would not benefit from this. I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

              3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
              Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
              Content Creator at Skapeup

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • P Offline
                pilou
                last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 18:49

                In my sens for a Rubyman
                Just modify the "Multiple face offset" with only 2 lateral sides against 4 ! So a special offset!
                And my first trick will be quasi perfect! πŸ˜‰

                But there are surely another possibilities πŸ˜„
                Cool headache πŸ‘

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • P Offline
                  pilou
                  last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 18:49

                  @unknownuser said:

                  what you've done can be achieved with a single tool - "Protrude" from Jim.

                  Effectively! πŸ˜„
                  Can you post you your example in V6 ?
                  Does has "internal faces" ?

                  Frenchy Pilou
                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                  My Little site :)

                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                  • E Offline
                    EarthMover
                    last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 19:20

                    @unknownuser said:

                    Effectively! πŸ˜„
                    Can you post you your example in V6 ?
                    Does has "internal faces" ?

                    Sorry Pilou...don't have V6 installed anymore. See shots from V8. The internal faces are removed.

                    The protrude tool (http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2007/10/plugin-protrude.html ) is effective for doing flat surface grooves such as hardwood flooring, etc. It's where the groove has to turn a corner that is the issue. I wonder if it could be adapted to do the same thing, but instead of regular offset and push pull, use the Offset on Surface method and Joint Push pull. This would allow you to soften the corners, then the tool could just offset the grooves and JPP the faces.


                    protrude.jpg


                    protrude_Inside.jpg

                    3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                    Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                    Content Creator at Skapeup

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • J Offline
                      jeff hammond
                      last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 19:44

                      @unknownuser said:

                      I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

                      it does.. select all the lines then use the 2nd icon (build along path followme.. or smthg like that)

                      the problem however is going to be that the vertical tubes won't orient properly in your drawing.. they'll all be on the XY instead of rotating.

                      dotdotdot

                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                      • E Offline
                        EarthMover
                        last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 20:55

                        @unknownuser said:

                        @unknownuser said:

                        I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

                        it does.. select all the lines then use the 2nd icon (build along path followme.. or smthg like that)

                        Doesn't seem to work on multiple closed edge loops, i.e. the test model I posted. Although you are right, on non closed edge loops, multiple selections does work, which is great. Creating the profile from middle and then outer shelling them makes a great groove cutting group, even with curves.

                        3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                        Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                        Content Creator at Skapeup

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • J Offline
                          jeff hammond
                          last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 21:13

                          @earthmover said:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          @unknownuser said:

                          I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

                          it does.. select all the lines then use the 2nd icon (build along path followme.. or smthg like that)

                          Doesn't seem to work on multiple closed edge loops, i.e. the test model I posted. Although you are right, on non closed edge loops, multiple selections does work, which is great. Creating the profile from middle and then outer shelling them makes a great groove cutting group, even with curves.

                          oh. my bad. I'm on a phone today with only a slight memory of seeing your model last night πŸ˜‰
                          I thought the grooves were Cs instead of rectangles.

                          dotdotdot

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • P Offline
                            pilou
                            last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 21:13

                            @unknownuser said:

                            Sorry Pilou...don't have V6 installed anymore.

                            Last V8 don't permit Save as V6 ? 😲

                            The viewer V8 don't work on my old computer! 😳

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

                            1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                            • E Offline
                              EarthMover
                              last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:07

                              I remember also, just can't seem to find it.

                              Actually support for adjoining faces which are not coplanar would be preferable.

                              I would like to add groves to something like the following -

                              Edge 2 Groove test model.jpg

                              Edge 2 Groove test model2.jpg


                              Edge 2 Groove test model.skp

                              3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                              Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                              Content Creator at Skapeup

                              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                              • E Offline
                                EarthMover
                                last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:08

                                @unknownuser said:

                                @unknownuser said:

                                Sorry Pilou...don't have V6 installed anymore.

                                Last V8 don't permit Save as V6 ? 😲

                                The viewer V8 don't work on my old computer! 😳

                                Sorry Pilou, I misunderstood. I updated the test model saved as V6.

                                3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                Content Creator at Skapeup

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • P Offline
                                  pilou
                                  last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:33

                                  No Problem πŸ˜‰
                                  Many Thanks !
                                  In therory if the there no special element like DC or other news it's better to save in V6 πŸ˜„
                                  As like, V6, V7, V8 users can reload it πŸ˜‰

                                  Frenchy Pilou
                                  Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                  My Little site :)

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • R Offline
                                    Rich O Brien Moderator
                                    last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:35

                                    @Pilou

                                    Do you have v8 installed? Surely you must... 😲

                                    Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp πŸ“–

                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • sdmitchS Offline
                                      sdmitch
                                      last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:45

                                      In my plugin, the top groove is not a problem. But the side grooves either cross or diverge when pushpulled due to the faces not being coplanar.

                                      Grooves.png

                                      as the image shows.

                                      Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                                      http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

                                      1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                      • P Offline
                                        pilou
                                        last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:45

                                        Yes but on other computer
                                        I have this old one (ten years) for test some programs for old configs for some coders πŸ˜„

                                        Frenchy Pilou
                                        Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                        My Little site :)

                                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                        • P Offline
                                          pilou
                                          last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 23:13

                                          @ EarthMover
                                          Why your model has no bottom faces?
                                          That will not solids! So possibilitiy to use boolean operation will be forbidden!

                                          Frenchy Pilou
                                          Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                          My Little site :)

                                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                          • 1
                                          • 2
                                          • 3
                                          • 4
                                          • 1 / 4
                                          1 / 4
                                          • First post
                                            17/68
                                            Last post
                                          Buy SketchPlus
                                          Buy SUbD
                                          Buy WrapR
                                          Buy eBook
                                          Buy Modelur
                                          Buy Vertex Tools
                                          Buy SketchCuisine
                                          Buy FormFonts

                                          Advertisement