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  • P Offline
    pilou
    last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 18:49

    In my sens for a Rubyman
    Just modify the "Multiple face offset" with only 2 lateral sides against 4 ! So a special offset!
    And my first trick will be quasi perfect! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    But there are surely another possibilities ๐Ÿ˜„
    Cool headache ๐Ÿ‘

    Frenchy Pilou
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      pilou
      last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 18:49

      @unknownuser said:

      what you've done can be achieved with a single tool - "Protrude" from Jim.

      Effectively! ๐Ÿ˜„
      Can you post you your example in V6 ?
      Does has "internal faces" ?

      Frenchy Pilou
      Is beautiful that please without concept!
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        EarthMover
        last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 19:20

        @unknownuser said:

        Effectively! ๐Ÿ˜„
        Can you post you your example in V6 ?
        Does has "internal faces" ?

        Sorry Pilou...don't have V6 installed anymore. See shots from V8. The internal faces are removed.

        The protrude tool (http://sketchuptips.blogspot.com/2007/10/plugin-protrude.html ) is effective for doing flat surface grooves such as hardwood flooring, etc. It's where the groove has to turn a corner that is the issue. I wonder if it could be adapted to do the same thing, but instead of regular offset and push pull, use the Offset on Surface method and Joint Push pull. This would allow you to soften the corners, then the tool could just offset the grooves and JPP the faces.


        protrude.jpg


        protrude_Inside.jpg

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          jeff hammond
          last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 19:44

          @unknownuser said:

          I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

          it does.. select all the lines then use the 2nd icon (build along path followme.. or smthg like that)

          the problem however is going to be that the vertical tubes won't orient properly in your drawing.. they'll all be on the XY instead of rotating.

          dotdotdot

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            EarthMover
            last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 20:55

            @unknownuser said:

            @unknownuser said:

            I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

            it does.. select all the lines then use the 2nd icon (build along path followme.. or smthg like that)

            Doesn't seem to work on multiple closed edge loops, i.e. the test model I posted. Although you are right, on non closed edge loops, multiple selections does work, which is great. Creating the profile from middle and then outer shelling them makes a great groove cutting group, even with curves.

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              jeff hammond
              last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 21:13

              @earthmover said:

              @unknownuser said:

              @unknownuser said:

              I wish Profile Builder worked on multiple paths at the same time.

              it does.. select all the lines then use the 2nd icon (build along path followme.. or smthg like that)

              Doesn't seem to work on multiple closed edge loops, i.e. the test model I posted. Although you are right, on non closed edge loops, multiple selections does work, which is great. Creating the profile from middle and then outer shelling them makes a great groove cutting group, even with curves.

              oh. my bad. I'm on a phone today with only a slight memory of seeing your model last night ๐Ÿ˜‰
              I thought the grooves were Cs instead of rectangles.

              dotdotdot

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                pilou
                last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 21:13

                @unknownuser said:

                Sorry Pilou...don't have V6 installed anymore.

                Last V8 don't permit Save as V6 ? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                The viewer V8 don't work on my old computer! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                Frenchy Pilou
                Is beautiful that please without concept!
                My Little site :)

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                  EarthMover
                  last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:07

                  I remember also, just can't seem to find it.

                  Actually support for adjoining faces which are not coplanar would be preferable.

                  I would like to add groves to something like the following -

                  Edge 2 Groove test model.jpg

                  Edge 2 Groove test model2.jpg


                  Edge 2 Groove test model.skp

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                    EarthMover
                    last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:08

                    @unknownuser said:

                    @unknownuser said:

                    Sorry Pilou...don't have V6 installed anymore.

                    Last V8 don't permit Save as V6 ? ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                    The viewer V8 don't work on my old computer! ๐Ÿ˜ณ

                    Sorry Pilou, I misunderstood. I updated the test model saved as V6.

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                      pilou
                      last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:33

                      No Problem ๐Ÿ˜‰
                      Many Thanks !
                      In therory if the there no special element like DC or other news it's better to save in V6 ๐Ÿ˜„
                      As like, V6, V7, V8 users can reload it ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      Frenchy Pilou
                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                      My Little site :)

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                        Rich O Brien Moderator
                        last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:35

                        @Pilou

                        Do you have v8 installed? Surely you must... ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                        Download the free D'oh Book for SketchUp ๐Ÿ“–

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                          sdmitch
                          last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:45

                          In my plugin, the top groove is not a problem. But the side grooves either cross or diverge when pushpulled due to the faces not being coplanar.

                          Grooves.png

                          as the image shows.

                          Nothing is worthless, it can always be used as a bad example.

                          http://sdmitch.blogspot.com/

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                            pilou
                            last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 22:45

                            Yes but on other computer
                            I have this old one (ten years) for test some programs for old configs for some coders ๐Ÿ˜„

                            Frenchy Pilou
                            Is beautiful that please without concept!
                            My Little site :)

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                              pilou
                              last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 23:13

                              @ EarthMover
                              Why your model has no bottom faces?
                              That will not solids! So possibilitiy to use boolean operation will be forbidden!

                              Frenchy Pilou
                              Is beautiful that please without concept!
                              My Little site :)

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                                pilou
                                last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 23:29

                                So the plug is not optimized ๐Ÿ˜‰
                                Keep the good work! ๐Ÿ‘
                                I have not yet found a super trick with plugs existing ๐Ÿ˜ž
                                It's not very easy to select only the section between "elements" for some tricky actions ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                And carreful here you have quadrangular sections, but your plug must work with any polygonal "sections" ! ๐Ÿค“
                                So regular PushPull will not work!

                                Frenchy Pilou
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                                My Little site :)

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                                  pilou
                                  last edited by 28 Apr 2012, 23:32

                                  Curiously the Select Lines by Length By Chris Fulmer don't work with your object ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

                                  Frenchy Pilou
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                                    TIG Moderator
                                    last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 10:08

                                    As sdmitch has found, doing it programmatically is fraught with challenges...


                                    Capture.PNG

                                    TIG

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                                      pilou
                                      last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 13:05

                                      like this ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                      Red and Green prism volumes are equal
                                      Groove is constant
                                      Click for all image
                                      Kill_Add.jpg

                                      Frenchy Pilou
                                      Is beautiful that please without concept!
                                      My Little site :)

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                                        TIG Moderator
                                        last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 13:47

                                        That only works for parallel faced boxes - it won't work if it has non-parallel facets or only some faces are to be grooved... ๐Ÿ˜’

                                        TIG

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                                          pilou
                                          last edited by 29 Apr 2012, 13:53

                                          That is the case of the EartMover example asked
                                          Just angle change between elements so the prism will be not always the same

                                          Frenchy Pilou
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                                          My Little site :)

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