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    • utilerU Offline
      utiler
      last edited by

      Fredo, I assume Toposhaper is a work in progress and hasn't been released yet? I can't find it for download...

      Cheers,

      purpose/expression/purpose/....

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      • fredo6F Offline
        fredo6
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        @utiler said:

        Fredo, I assume Toposhaper is a work in progress and hasn't been released yet? I can't find it for download...

        Cheers,

        Correct, it is work in progress. However, I think I have done most of the algorithmics now and should be able to release a first simple version soon.

        In the meantime, I am still interested in getting models of contours to test the plugin.

        Fredo

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        • utilerU Offline
          utiler
          last edited by

          OK, do you want them in DWG or SU? I'll send a few through....

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          • pbacotP Offline
            pbacot
            last edited by

            I'm "cooking" one up in Sandbox right now. I'll send the file when it gets done. Taking about 10 min. to do "from contours". It's a nice one with hills and saddles.

            MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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            • T Offline
              twestover
              last edited by

              Will the plugin work with an already triangulated surface?

              Say I have imported and triangulated a set of XYZ data, and wish to turn it into a solid group like your final product, with vertical sides and a horizontal bottom. Is that possible?

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              • utilerU Offline
                utiler
                last edited by

                Fredo, would you like contours in DWG or SU?

                purpose/expression/purpose/....

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                • fredo6F Offline
                  fredo6
                  last edited by

                  @utiler said:

                  Fredo, would you like contours in DWG or SU?

                  I prefer SU as I am not familiar with CAD and Archi software (I don't know DWG format).

                  Thanks in advance

                  Fredo

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                  • pilouP Offline
                    pilou
                    last edited by

                    @unknownuser said:

                    I prefer SU as I am not familiar with CAD and Archi software

                    Except one! SU Itself ๐Ÿ˜‰

                    Frenchy Pilou
                    Is beautiful that please without concept!
                    My Little site :)

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                    • utilerU Offline
                      utiler
                      last edited by

                      Here's a few contour Skippy's, Fredo.

                      Survey01 - contours or a regular residential site of about 800sqm with a 15m fall. Contours at 250mm....

                      survey01.skp

                      Survey02 - contours over a commercial development site of about 2800sqm. Contours at 200mm increments with minimum grad.

                      survey02.skp

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                      • fredo6F Offline
                        fredo6
                        last edited by

                        Andrew

                        First of all, thanks very much for posting these 2 samples. They are extremely useful for fine tuning the algorithms.

                        I have problem about the calculation of the concave hull for the first one, but here is the second one, in 2 flavors:

                        • the original altitude (which are very flattish)
                        • the exaggerated altitudes which help me to better check the calculations

                        utiler_survey02.skp

                        Utiler Survey02 by TopoShaper.png

                        Utiler Survey02 by TopoShaper max.png

                        Fredo

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                        • KrisidiousK Offline
                          Krisidious
                          last edited by

                          subscribed... ๐Ÿ˜ฒ

                          By: Kristoff Rand
                          Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                          • utilerU Offline
                            utiler
                            last edited by

                            No problem, Fredo, I'm not surprised at issues with the first one as it was a survey of a site with an existing residence on it which prevented a uniform data to be taken...

                            What you've done with the other one looks good! Can't wait to see how this plugin ends up. I'll see if I can dig out some other survey plans off file and convert them for you.

                            ๐Ÿ‘

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                            • fredo6F Offline
                              fredo6
                              last edited by

                              @utiler said:

                              No problem, Fredo, I'm not surprised at issues with the first one as it was a survey of a site with an existing residence on it which prevented a uniform data to be taken...

                              I evolved the algorithm for calculating the concave hull on your complex model and could obtain a result on your model, without any change, here attached.

                              A lot of the problem come from the small terminations hooks in several contours, like illustrated on the picture below
                              TopoShaper small hooks.png

                              The issue with terrain construction is that you need to have a correct hull in order to determine the spatial distribution of the influence of the contours.

                              utiler_survey01.skp

                              TopoShaper Utiler Survey 01.png

                              TopoShaper Utiler Survey 1.gif

                              Fredo

                              PS: I hope to finish a first version in 2-3 weeks time, as I have actually very few moment available currently

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                              • EarthMoverE Offline
                                EarthMover
                                last edited by

                                Can't wait! Thanks Fredo!

                                3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                • utilerU Offline
                                  utiler
                                  last edited by

                                  that is looking very sweet, Fredo!!!! Can't wait as well!!!

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                                  • KrisidiousK Offline
                                    Krisidious
                                    last edited by

                                    here's a topo I just got from a survey company... if you need tests.


                                    HANNA-TOPO.dwg

                                    By: Kristoff Rand
                                    Home DesignerUnique House Plans

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                                    • EarthMoverE Offline
                                      EarthMover
                                      last edited by

                                      Here's another set of contour lines from my current project. All welded up.


                                      Coleman Topo.skp

                                      3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                      Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                      Content Creator at Skapeup

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                                      • pbacotP Offline
                                        pbacot
                                        last edited by

                                        I've gone ahead and started using one of the tests you made of my contour set, Fredo. I don't have a lot to do as yet but it was really clean leveling some areas and "filling" others with Artisan. Maybe we can illustrate the cut and fill on the project with before and AFTER terrains. Thanks!

                                        MacOSX MojaveSketchUp Pro v19 Twilight v2 Thea v3 PowerCADD

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                                        • fredo6F Offline
                                          fredo6
                                          last edited by

                                          @earthmover said:

                                          Here's another set of contour lines from my current project. All welded up.

                                          Adam,

                                          Here is what I obtain on the original file. I think however that the contour should be simplified a little bit because there are a lot of edges and it slows down the calculation.

                                          Earthmover Coleman Topo.skp

                                          Toposhaper Earthmover Coleman Topo.png

                                          Fredo

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                                          • EarthMoverE Offline
                                            EarthMover
                                            last edited by

                                            A quick play with the contours. Simplified the curves using Thom's Edge Tools. Then did a From Contours terrain. Then a Drape Cpoints / Triangulate method to retopo. Then opened the high res contour lines in 3ds Max and used the free Populate Terrain plugin to generate a similar terrain. Then brought it back into sketchup and compared the two.


                                            Earthmover Coleman Topo (1).skp

                                            3D Artist at Clearstory 3D Imaging
                                            Guide Tool at Winning With Sketchup
                                            Content Creator at Skapeup

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