Sketchup 9
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Proper UV tools, nothing more (until version 10)
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I'll second that! (if they do it)
Best,
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You must take into consideration Google's business philosopshy towards SU. Its primary aim and ambition now satisfies the basic citeria it once set out to be.I suspect , since the basic criteria and need for SU has now been fully satsified, the next business model is to
take on Autodesk and the tablet market.We know Vray 2.0 for sketchup is in the works.
My bet is they are going to go for the "app" route and discard pro-su in the future. This will allow SU team to focus on multi-core and efficiency issues of high polygon models. -
@solo said:
Proper UV tools, nothing more (until version 10)
I've come to learn not to expect anything for a new SketchUp release.
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@pixero said:
@solo said:
Proper UV tools, nothing more (until version 10)
I've come to learn not to expect anything for a new SketchUp release.
However, I wouldn't cry if they did add proper UV tools.Simply because SU, when bought over by Google was never meant to be a CAD competitor to other processional software.
As far as the Board of directors are concerned at Google, SU is at its peak of satisfying the general populace
of google earth users and science fair projects.However, the sheer number of SU users may force the BOD to change direction.
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I'd be happy if they just fixed the issue(s) that results in my right-click menu greying out.
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@jorge2011 said:
Sketchup is an excellent program for this reason is that it always requires a little more.
perhaps, organizer of plugins, better performance, drawing and modification tools more powerful, enhanced animation and scene management, enhancements to apply and manipulate materials, improvements and new features for dynamic components, improvements to the outline and so on .... .
sketchup much can be improved, adding new features.@fuzzion said:
Simply because SU, when bought over by Google was never meant to be a CAD competitor to other processional software.
As far as the Board of directors are concerned at Google, SU is at its peak of satisfying the general populace
of google earth users and science fair projects.That's what I was thinking - what is there in the functionality of SU as it is that would prompt Google to change anything about it? Sure there might be some minor bug fixes, but do you really see "them" investing in making this a much more robust 3D modeling software? I am mildly curious how important sketchucation and plugins, etc. are to Google and their needs for this product. I see it as rather fringe compared to their core interests. (i.e. Google Earth)
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One would hope they would be interested in SketchUp Pro footing the bill for maintaining the free version of SketchUp -- for new OS issues, new hardware support, and better integration with Google Earth... those types of things are always ongoing issues for the free version.
I don't expect nor do I care much about major improvements to the free version... it is free after all -- however as a paying user I do expect major improvements to a software I have to pay to upgrade.
Best,
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Good point about the pro version. I wonder if Google considers it a pro software or not? Hmm, a trip into the mind of googleplex...
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Always a frightening trip
... but I never see what I expect to find there Best,
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@bob james said:
I'd be happy if they just fixed the issue(s) that results in my right-click menu greying out.
I feel your pain. . .
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sketchup 9 does not, but maintenance 2 YES. yes yes yes.
thanks, will see that it is
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@jason_maranto said:
I don't expect nor do I care much about major improvements to the free version... it is free after all -- however as a paying user I do expect major improvements to a software I have to pay to upgrade.
Kinda cold. Not all of us can afford the pro version
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@hellnbak said:
@jason_maranto said:
I don't expect nor do I care much about major improvements to the free version... it is free after all -- however as a paying user I do expect major improvements to a software I have to pay to upgrade.
Kinda cold. Not all of us can afford the pro version
i think you're taking jason's post out of context..
point is, if you paid $.5g for sketchup, i think you'd expect improvements a lot more than if you're using the free version..dunno, try it out.. buy sketchup (and pay the upgrade fees) then see if you feel differently about what you'd like to see happen with the software.
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True, but those who cannot are certainly not funding the further development of the software -- users who buy the Pro version are enabling the software to continue to develop and I think the ratio of features should reflect that reality.
Don't get me wrong I love the fact that SketchUp is available in a free version -- my issue is not with the users who want to use SketchUp free for what it is... I'm just not amused at seeing the bulk of new features aimed at Google Earth tools (which is the sole function of the free version as far as Google in concerned).
Let the free version have as many Google Earth related upgrades as possible -- but as a Pro version user I expect Pro level 3D modeling/texturing tools to materialize... realistically if they were to give away those Pro level tools there would be no incentive to purchase Pro at all, which is not in their interests.
Bottom line, I'm not continuing to pay for a Pro version if it isn't worth considerably more than the free version... the update to 8 was a disappointment in this regard, perhaps 9 will rectify that.
I will say that the Advanced Camera Tools were a step in the right direction, and along with Solid Tools are really the only things that truly made me need to upgrade from 7.
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I think they're listening to customer feedback. The #1 request for the next SketchUp was address the management of plugins. Now they've done it in this maintenance release. Along with a more robust collada importer which I think is the format to replace .obj.
As far as free users getting these features along with me I'm not too concerned. What a Pro user gets compared to a Free user is notable (LayOut, Camera Tools etc...).
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@jason_maranto said:
my issue is not with the users who want to use SketchUp free for what it is
I can only speak for myself but it's not a question of wanting to use the free version, it's a question of priorities -- food or SU Pro.
I do understand what you are saying tho, and you've brought up some good points. As far as Google only supporting SU free so users can support Google Earth, not sure that's right. I for one do not see it that way. Although I know Google does not provide SU free out of the goodness of their heart -- with Google the bottom line is always the (very sickly) dollar
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Actually, just ignore anything I said. Not trying to p*** anyone off, I'm just having a really bad day and shouldn't be interacting with the outside world.
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@jorge2011 said:
some idea of the new version?
will be published this year?
Anyone know anything?Please sketchup team can give some information?
To all, being a newbie to this forum I'm not too sure if this is the right place to say what one would like to see in SU-9, but here goes anyway.
Being a self employed architectural consultant in the uk, earning a "crust" is half the battle given the current climate. I use DataCAD ver-14 for most paying work & SU if I've got time to show boat the plans a bit in 3D, as 3D in DataCAD is just plain painful for me. Anyway there was a recent post on the DC forum about SU being able to produce construction type plans. I sort of thought about it & thought maybe, but most others on the DC forum that replied said no way.
I can see why, as SU has always maintained it was not meant to be CAD software. However I've seen some quite brilliant hybid type building details & floor plans & elevations, so it seems to be getting better for the architectural arena. I therefore was wondering if SU-9 would make this task easier & more possible with some in house architectural tools like bonzai3d, just a thought.
Over & out,
Clayton
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@unknownuser said:
Along with a more robust collada importer which I think is the format to replace .obj.
would be nice if the rest of the GFX industry thought so. many apps write Collada... but few read it. but all tend to read / write OBJ.
it's annoying... if you write it.. why not read it???
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